Someone PLEASE please help direct me to a surgeon who may be able to find out what is going on? I damaged my own face and need to fix it.

Qowpel

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Did the ent have anything helpful?
Has the pain eased up at all?
I hope you can find answers
Unfortunately no. She simply said maybe I have TMJ. I asked here well then how the hell could TMJ make the facial fat move so drastically. (I showed her the series of befores and I afters I just posted in my most recent reply to this thread besides this one). She could not answer. She was dumbfounded. Plus her physical examination literally reignited all of the problems 100% again. I have pain, discomfort, and clearly, VERY clearly tissue displacement. At first the displacement was not so bad. Not it really is starting to age my face badly. The third attachment on my last post is me as of today. I used to look 5 plus years younger than my age. Now I look 30 on the dot. Nothing wrong with me being 30 looking thirty, but there IS a problem with some type of underlying issue causing me to visually age so quickly.
 

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Seriously, you look exactly the same as you did in the first set of photos. I would direct you to a new activity.

ETA: Try a new pair of eyeglass frames.
 
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Actually amazing how there can be so many different photos of the exact same expression. I don't think I could do that.
 

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Unfortunately no. She simply said maybe I have TMJ. I asked here well then how the hell could TMJ make the facial fat move so drastically. (I showed her the series of befores and I afters I just posted in my most recent reply to this thread besides this one). She could not answer. She was dumbfounded. Plus her physical examination literally reignited all of the problems 100% again. I have pain, discomfort, and clearly, VERY clearly tissue displacement. At first the displacement was not so bad. Not it really is starting to age my face badly. The third attachment on my last post is me as of today. I used to look 5 plus years younger than my age. Now I look 30 on the dot. Nothing wrong with me being 30 looking thirty, but there IS a problem with some type of underlying issue causing me to visually age so quickly.
I am a graphic artist and I took your photos and layered them in Photoshop and adjusted the opacity on the top layer. Your face is EXACTLY the same size in each. Even the philtrum spacing. EXACTLY the same. Perhaps there is a 3D factor to all of this that we are not able to capture in a photo? Also, FWIW, my guess was that you were 23-25 years old...so I do NOT think you look 30. You truly are very cute--and yes, I am old enough to be your mom so I am not hitting on you! ;) I would have gone in the direction of a specialist facial plastic surgeon for a consult and not an ENT.
 

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Months ago I created a post after a facial injury which injured both sides of my face (mainly the left in terms of the most pain), caused my face to begin sagging. Well, some of the people here said it was difficult to spot. Unforuntately the damage has continued and now is quite easy to see. I clearly would need a lifting procedure to fix this. In fact, the idea of the tissue descending so much in just a few months is unacceptable and I cannot just allow my face to change at this rate. I fel physical discomfort in my face as well so clearly there is an underlying damage going on. I wish I could go back to how I looked before, and I doubt even the best plastic surgeon will be able to give me my old face. But if a surgeon could at least reduce the change by like 50% And suture things in place so they stop moving I think I would be happy. Changes in the after, Both sides are sagging down and face is more bottom heavy clearly when before it was more narrow near the chin and wider on the way up. Kind of like an egg shape. Now it is becoming more boxy. I do not recognize myself and feel this has made me look 5 years older out of nowhere. Truly bizzzarre. It cannot be aging because I can literally move my cheek into a new position if I lightly pull on it. I know that sounds crazy but that ACTUALLY is something I can do. Mind you my initial injury was REALLY painful. No bruising or anything but it felt like I had torn something in my face. Never been the same since..... The before is in the grey top. After is the white top. In each photo my right side is on the left of the photo and vice versa. THe sagging on the right side of my face is the most apparent.... I really hope to find a good surgeon who could at the very least figure out which tissue is damaged and at least do something surgical to STOP this from progressing.

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I remember your posts; are you still in pain? I hope you can find a dr to take you seriously & a way to address both the facial changes & the pain.
 

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the pain is mostly discomfort now. I dont even know how the hell im going to convince a doctor that i hurt myself in such a way that my face is literally changing this much so easily. Theyll probably blame aging. So because of that I likely will have to, one day, take a photo of myself at a specific angle, then induce movement in one of my cheeks and take an after (so that my face clearly is different just minutes apart according to my phone camera timestamp. And ask the doctor "can aging do this, where i can induce a new position in my cheek?" And even so, even Rapid aging couldnt make this much of a difference in 4 ****ing months (in reality it is one week shy of 4 months" I dont even know which doctor to go to. Ive been trying to manage this on my own. There is a really good ENT in NYC I was reccomened to go to, but they will try to blame this on TMJ. This is now ****ing TMJ though, Yeah my face is wider but NOT due to the TMJ joint. It is due to tissue descent.
 
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Your final comment concerns me.

I do, very much, think you need to go see a doctor, listen to their advice and not try to manage this on your own. I think you have become really wrapped up in what you see and sometimes our eyes deceive us.

I hope you have friends and family around you.
 
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Re: type of Dr. who could address this type of injury I sustained a mouth injury and consulted with two oral and maxillofacial surgeons in Los Angeles. In LA, I recommend Dr. Relle at LACOMS. You might have to be referred to him via your primary dentist or MD.