Well, ladies, I took a spill after work, slipping on some fallen leaves which blocked my view of the curb. Thankfully my knees are only bruised and my suede boots, laptop and briefcase and LV Cabas Piano are all OK . the only casuality was my Joe's Jeans which now are ripped at the knee - guess it could have been worse. I'm ordering another pair which I think was pretty similar to the 'socialite' style. these are called 'muse.' any ideas? I'm even going down a size as the others got a little saggy. any other input on this particular style? TIA!