She could get Hermes so easily! What do you think?

[the-chus]

I was new to Hermes forum and just got started to study more about this brand.

In my understanding Hermes's signature bags are hard to buy, especially Birkin's and Kelly's. Even you have enough funds to buy one or more, sometimes you have to be in the waiting list for a year for a bag you ordered, and you have to set up a good relationship with the store first or they won't even bother to put you on their waiting list.

-- please correct me if I am wrong.

However a few days ago one of my friends in China send me a lady's online store link. I was simply shocked - look at all those colorful H bags on her site! Seems like she got shipments of H bags every now and then (almost every other week) and sell them on the internet. I was like " Are these bags authentic?" but my friend said they are and she's been doing this business for quite a while and a lot of rich ladies in China have bought bags from her and become her repeat customers. Of course they will have to pay extra for the bags (for your information, the exchange rate between USD and CNY(RMB) is now aound 6.5, so a Birkin 35 Gold Togo GHW with N stamp she's now selling for 92000 is compared to USD$14150 ) but these rich ladies won't care as long as they could get the rare H bags without waiting.

How amazing and what a "wonderful" business. Does Hermes allow and encourage this to happen? I figure she must have some close relatives/friends working in Hermes stores, otherwise I can't imagine why so many H bags could be sold to the same client while others have to wait for a long time.

Do you ladies think this is possible? I am so tempted to buy one from her with my friend's help, considering it might be hard to get one in my city.

Here is her store link:xxx

and a few recent pictures from her "weibo" (a website kind of like Twitter):

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[crazyforhermess]

As far as I am concern, H dont have consignment arrangement with anyone, but the website you have provided, that have so many Birkin stocks is the same as one shop in Japan www.lecrin.jp. This company claims their bags are duty free and many many customers buy from them with a premium price (many rich local and internationals customers use to buy from lecrin and it was introduced to me by one of my Taiwanese friend who live in Japan.

 

[the-chus]

See if it could show the pictures directly this time...

 

[the-chus]

Thanks for the information.

I went to this Japanese website and yes they are similar! Amazing that there are so many places to buy Birkin besides the H boutique...

As far as I am concern, H dont have consignment arrangement with anyone, but the website you have provided, that have so many Birkin stocks is the same as one shop in Japan www.lecrin.jp. This company claims their bags are duty free and many many customers buy from them with a premium price (many rich local and internationals customers use to buy from lecrin and it was introduced to me by one of my Taiwanese friend who live in Japan.

 

[crazyforhermess]

right? I thought so, and whatever stocks they have, they will sell and for those out of stock, you can order and they will try their best to get one for you ASAP, that's what I heard, trying to visit this place after my Taiwanese is back from Taiwan.

Thanks for the information.

I went to this Japanese website and yes they are similar! Amazing that there are so many places to buy Birkin besides the H boutique...

 

[CobaltBlu]

the-chus, the site you posted has had many counterfeit bags listed. I do not know if there are authentic bags to be had there, but to be safe, I am removing the link.

 

[the-chus]

Oh, ok. That site is like China's ebay and yes I understand there are counterfeit bags listed, but there are also authentic bags...and so is ebay. But anyway, you are right to be safe!

Please don't link to or provide pics from sites selling fakes. You've been asked once already. Thank you.

 

[the-chus]

Please don't link to or provide pics from sites selling fakes. You've been asked once already. Thank you.

To whom it may concern:

I'm sorry? Although I felt and said Ok that the link got removed by CobaltBlu because of "for safe", how could you just made the conclusion that the link I posted was linking to fakes?? Do you have any evidence that those bags are not authentic?? Did you have those bags in the link or the pictures authenticated? And by whom?? As I said, I understand that the site "TaoBao" has some couterfeit goods sold by bad sellers, but I also want to point out that there ARE also authentic goods sold by good sellers. Do you always send TPFers this "reminder" when they post a link of ebay because there are always some fakes on evilbay, which makes it "a site selling fakes", even though the link posted directs to authentic goods? At least this never happened to me when I was posting ebay's links on TPF during these years.

I did not have an issue with the link got removed but am now really feeling offended by your following statement. I hereby request a better explanation about this from PurseForum, otherwise I will call this a discrimination. Discrimination to whom? Chinese? I don't know, you tell me.

Thank you for your attention to my request.

Yours truly,

the-chus

 

[mistikat]

The photos were removed because yes, some of the bags looked fake. As you had already been asked not to link to these particular photos, this was a further reminder.

 

[the-chus]

My understanding is I could not post the link because "people might go to other stores on that site from the link which might be selling fakes" - but I do believe that the bags in that link and the pictures I posted are authentic. Just "look fake to u" doesn't mean they are fake. Thanks.

The photos were removed because yes, some of the bags looked fake. As you had already been asked not to link to these particular photos, this was a further reminder.

 

[the-chus]

I do not want to rise argument but feel the necessarily to make some more clarifications.

So as you said, the reason for me receiving the “further reminder” was that I posted 2 pictures of that lady’s H bag collections.

Since I respected what Cobaltblu did (removed the previous link), this time I was only posting 2 pictures which had been uploaded to TPF. It will not link you to any website when you click these pictures; neither is there any links/website address in the pictures’ content. In other words, they were just 2 normal ones as anybody else’s H bag collection photos, and everybody from TPF should be “safe” when reviewing these pictures.

I was posting them only to support what I said in my original post, and to share my surprise seeing so many colorful H bags – to me they are “eye candies” to be appreciated; and I do believe that they are authentic bags – trust me, being a proud TPFer for almost 4 years, I hate counterfeit bags as much as you do.

There are always authentic goods and fake goods on all the selling/auction sites, so is Bonanza, so is Craigslist, and so is eBay. Then while it is ok to post links/pictures from Bonanza/Craigslist/eBay, why getting the conclusion that all the bags from that Chinese site are fakes or “look like fakes” and refuse to believe there are authentic bags?

So that’s why I feel it unacceptable that these pictures got removed again because of “link to fake” – while they did not. And feel offended for TPF sending me this “further reminder”. I don’t think TPF will remove or withdraw such “reminder” but at least I need to express my disappointments.

That is all I need to say. Thank you.

 

[Mindi B]

The bottom line is that tPF operates according to certain rules, which the moderators must uphold and sometimes, interpret. There is a difference between posting a single bag for authentication and posting a site link. The former is acceptable; the latter, generally not. You are welcome to dislike the rules and to express annoyance at their application, and if you feel strongly enough, you may wish to forego participating on the Forum. But the repeated suggestion that the mods are motivated by racism is untrue and insulting to all of us who use tPF. And that's all I wish to say. Thank you!

 

[Perigord]

Please let me say thank you to Mindi B for the thoughtful post.

I understand that the op may well feel frustration over the issue. That said, this is a truly intercontinental community made up of posters who represent a huge range of ages, nationalities, ethnicities, genders, and tastes! There are lovers of the hottest colors, and lovers of only the most neutral of neutrals. There may be issues to debate regarding the site in question, but I think it is wrong to make the leap to a question of prejudice.

Each online site has its own personality, its own content, and its own degree of risk. EBay may not be 100% perfect, but there are safeguards in place that at least exceed Craigslist. In the case of eBay, most links are either to good items or, in the case of authenticity questions, to items that need examination and comment. If an item is deemed bad, it is clear. In the case of links to sites with less oversight, I think it is appropriate for the moderators here to be able to make judgment calls regarding links.

In the end, it is far better to be safe than sorry. There are many readers here who do not have the experience or, perhaps, the skills to judge the good from the bad. It is better for the mods to err on the side of caution when choosing to remove a link. Readers can assume that things that are posted here are automatically good. If the mods, in their discretion, choose to remove a link...then I think we all need to accept the removal with good grace.

Thanks everyone!

 

[the-chus]

Thank you, Perigord , for your considerate opinion, and the effort trying to make everyone have a calm and peaceful mind. I really appreciate it.

However, I must clarify again that I am not questioning why the LINK got removed by the mod – actually I have been expressing my respect and understanding upon same. What I am questioning is the mod’s further action - deleting PURE PICTURES showing bags only, without any link to any site on it (I had uploaded them on TPF already, so they both have a TPF’s URL), and calling them “link to fake”. How could they link to fake without any path to link?

And then I received a reminder by private message warning me that my forum rights/privilege might be affected. - only for posting 2 pure pictures? I don’t think nobody will get offended but just swallow it off and smile, especially for a TPFer who is proud to be anti-fakes. I really felt insulted about it.

Anyway. Maybe “mod’s are always right about deleting anything in the forum”, if the forum has such a rule or bottom line. In the actually world I have the freedom to question or appeal when I feel police or any other authority have done something wrong to me, so I did the same here, believing TPF is having an open mind and will listen to my voice.

My sincere apology to those who feel insulted about me mentioning the word “discrimination” – I was overwhelmed by frustration and could not think straight when I first got the warning letter. I am really sorry. It was not my intention to raise another argument upon same.

We love and respect TPF, and we deserve the same respect back. This is just my simple thoughts.

Have a good night everyone.

 

[Perigord]

Thanks for the kind reply. Now and then we all succumb to frustration. I am as guilty as anyone.

I am also speaking as someone who does not have great personal knowledge about the site in question. I do know that links, when they appear in the Hermes threads, often fall into some common categories. If a mod smells danger, they disappear!

A link might appear in the authenticate thread--and if the bag is bad, the answer will be obvious. If the bag is from an eBay listing or a Bonanzle listing, the link generally stays up because it is only one item and the answer has been rendered.

In the Finds Hermes thread, links pop up too. Rarely a bag is bad, or a link is to a site that has proven to offer bad bags. If just the bag is bad, others say so. If a link is offered to a site that has been troubling, the link is removed.

We may be sensitive here in the Hermes threads simply because of the huge price points of the merchandise and the proliferation of fakes. There is such an incredible amount of money to be made by counterfeiters. There is also such interest in these bags among readers here--and sometimes the readers are new and eager and perhaps too quick to trust what may be a dubious online source, just because it appears here. Please know that if anything was removed, it was in the spirit of reader protection.

You are clearly a longtime member and I hope you feel very happy and welcome in the Hermes threads.

If you are interested in a particular bag, you can always post it in the authentication threads. And you can go to the "eBay/online sellers" threads to see if there is general information there--in a range of countries.

I know you were talking about birkins and kellys. It seems the Hermes shopping "landscape" is always evolving. How hard or easy it may be to get a particular bag may vary according to your boutique, your location, and more.

There are great threads here on buying a birkin. I welcome you to read them. This is a terrific place for research, though it can be dangerous to the wallet.

Thank you again for your comments.