Sellier with me it goes further than just the look it's the actual wear fit and evolving process. I prefer the fit and look of retorne the only thing I don't like is that because the Kelly holds it's shape and weight with a top handle and thus only has 2 major anchor points for the one handle it depends strongly on the the turn lock, when the bag becomes heavy it creates a pull on the turn lock and leather making the bag have a two square bumps on each side and a deep line,it abuses the strength on the turn lock,sellier because its strong on the sides,the leather itself helps the structure and avoids strain on the turn lock so it looks a lot better overtime ,plus the fact that it is truly an art to make a Kelly to make it in sellier is a major art!!!!!!