Sellier or Retourner?

Everlong

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both have their advantages:

retourne because it gives it a more relaxed and casual look. the piping adds a nice dimension to the edges

sellier makes the bag more formal and the rigid edge gives it a timeless look
 
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Sellier for me. As H craftsmanship can be more visible by outside stitching.
Excellent points, Everlong and Mezzopiano.

I think I prefer the more trapezoidal shape of the sellier... I see these more in box (in fact I have one). I have been considering a retourner to have a more relaxed option but the shape seems a bit more square......

Perhaps a more casual leather like clemence in the sellier shape will be a nice option....???
 
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mrssparkles

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Excellent points, Everlong and Mezzopiano.

I think I prefer the more trapezoidal shape of the sellier... I see these more in box (in fact I have one). I have been considering a retourner to have a more relaxed option but the shape seems a bit more square......

Perhaps a more casual leather like clemence in the sellier shape will be a nice option....???
H does not make this combination. You can still get somewhat of a trapezoidal shape if you keep the retourne kelly to 25cm, 28cm and 32cm.
 

birkel

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Sellier with me it goes further than just the look it's the actual wear fit and evolving process. I prefer the fit and look of retorne the only thing I don't like is that because the Kelly holds it's shape and weight with a top handle and thus only has 2 major anchor points for the one handle it depends strongly on the the turn lock, when the bag becomes heavy it creates a pull on the turn lock and leather making the bag have a two square bumps on each side and a deep line,it abuses the strength on the turn lock,sellier because its strong on the sides,the leather itself helps the structure and avoids strain on the turn lock so it looks a lot better overtime ,plus the fact that it is truly an art to make a Kelly to make it in sellier is a major art!!!!!!
 
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BlueParrot

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I like both but in different sizes. For a 35 kelly, I like the retourne much better: that size is more casual to begin with and the retourne fits with the mood; also, in a 35, the sellier starts feeling like a briefcase. For a 28, the sellier is good and it is slightly dressier. For a 32, either is ok. Box takes on a beautiful patina but the bags that develop the loveliest glow are the retourne Kellys, IMO>
 

VickyB

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I have bags in both styles. Box sellier was my 1st. I never thought I'd like the retourne but I love it and have a few. They are more casual and less "ladies who lunch". Nothing beats the box sellier tho. It is such a timeless classic. A true monument.
 

birkel

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A true monument that's just it the perfect phrase and description vickyB just perfect !!!!
 

beachtime

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I have both I only purchased sellier kelly's until the new new so flash kelly came out this year, I purchased one this style is retourne and I love this casual look
 

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Sellier for me. As H craftsmanship can be more visible by outside stitching.
Sellier with me it goes further than just the look it's the actual wear fit and evolving process. I prefer the fit and look of retorne the only thing I don't like is that because the Kelly holds it's shape and weight with a top handle and thus only has 2 major anchor points for the one handle it depends strongly on the the turn lock, when the bag becomes heavy it creates a pull on the turn lock and leather making the bag have a two square bumps on each side and a deep line,it abuses the strength on the turn lock,sellier because its strong on the sides,the leather itself helps the structure and avoids strain on the turn lock so it looks a lot better overtime ,plus the fact that it is truly an art to make a Kelly to make it in sellier is a major art!!!!!!
OP... thanks for posting this. I am glad I got a sellier--- . Mezzo and Birkel.. fabulous as always.:drinkup:
 

India

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I have both. My chevre de coromandel souple is sellier and I adore it. My BBK is retourne and I much prefer box in retourne as in sellier it would be much too formal and stiff for my lifestyle.
 

amberle

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Both, for me it depends on the leather:I prefer retourne in togo/clemence and sellier in ostrich for example.Hope it helps!