I saw them in dillards, no time to visit the coach boutique before christmas (going the day after--you poor, poor SA's). They had both sizes, but none in all leather. Very cute bags, reminds me of my Kate Spade samson a bit. Both fit over my shoulder and I'm not a skinny one. Very tailored and polished looking. Debating if I'm going to go with the green leather one or something different.