I got it on greedBay from a very nice seller. It even came with a strap, original receipt & Vincent card. Aside from two light scratches on the bottom, it was as good as new. I had been looking for this one ever since I saw Moon's picture on the RM site. I almost gave up my search because I could not find her without the patent leather - VHTF. I am so happy. DH said in his manliest voice "Now that bag is worth it, good leather".