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February 3, 2006

Talk About Renting a Hole in the Wall

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By JANNY SCOTT
So you think your place is small? One night recently, a group of architecture students staying up late in a loft in Brooklyn took to amusing themselves by stuffing a mattress into a hole cut into the wall above a bedroom door. Then they tried the mattress out for comfort. Not half bad! It occurred to one of them, Nick Freeman, that people might pay money to call that elevated mattress home.
So Mr. Freeman posted an ad on the Web site Craigslist: "$35 — elevated mattress-sized space between rooms." He used a minimalist pitch. "Opening between hall and room available for long/short-term use, accessible by ladder, sheets and pillows not provided." The ad went up around noon, and by the end of that day, Mr. Freeman had a dozen potential takers.
"I was actually surprised with the amount of places that fall into that category — kind of like 'I'll rent a corner,' " said Drew Hart, who answered the ad. "I went to look at a place recently in Queens; I wasn't aware until I got there that it was a cloth shower curtain separating part of the living room."
Into the six-ring circus that is the housing market in New York City — where a house can sell for $40 million, an apartment can rent for $25,000 a month and extended families sleep in shifts in single rooms — came the airborne mattress, at least briefly.
As real estate prices remain stratospheric and people keep pouring into the city, some housing experts believe the market for space within other people's space is on the rise.
On Craigslist alone, one can find hundreds of ads for rooms within apartments, beds within bedrooms, even the occasional couch — if not living quarters, then living eighths. Some are available from Monday evenings through Friday mornings, some only on weekends. Some exclude kitchen privileges, request teetotalers, insist upon plant care, limit sleepovers.
A few will take some of the rent in trade.
"The regular value of this studio is $2,000 per month," one recent ad seeking a roommate for a West Side apartment said. "Your share of the rent is specially reduced to only $250 per month for a female in exchange for doing small chores a few hours a week (i.e. cooking, cleaning, answering phones, massage, etc.)."
The ad suggested helpfully, "Perfect for a student, tourist, actress, etc."
What, no cabdrivers?
"You're in the subterranean world in this particular issue," said Frank Braconi, executive director of the Citizens Housing and Planning Council, a policy research group in Manhattan. "So little of it is aboveboard and legal and monitored, nobody's counting anything. You're inevitably going to be in the realm of anecdote rather than data."
He added, "Anecdotally, it's overwhelmingly the case that it is going on more and more."
Caroline Adalian, a 33-year-old "child life specialist" in a Queens hospital who figures she has lived in 10 different places since college, recalls being required in one New York apartment to say she was a friend of the family and never mention rent. Another woman was told to say she was the cleaning lady.
A few years ago, Karen Falcon, whose family owns a brownstone on Broadway at 152nd Street, tried to find a family to rent the three-bedroom upstairs apartment. When her ad went unanswered, she tried advertising the rooms separately instead.
They went almost instantly, she said; so she turned herself into an informal rental agent for a friend with a 60-unit building full of large apartments nearby.
"We were inundated," said Ms. Falcon, who said tenants in the building now affectionately call it a dorm for adults. "Because young people are pouring into New York City. It's like we are such a magnet. I really feel I'm on the front lines of this."
The mattress episode began sometime before dawn on Jan. 16. John Ivanoff, a 22-year-old architecture student at the Pratt Institute in Brooklyn, who shares the 1,500-square-foot apartment on Taaffe Place with five others — the person with the only room with a real window pays an extra $50 in rent — said he and his roommates and Mr. Freeman, a friend, had stayed up drinking and suddenly decided to stuff a spare mattress into the rectangular hole cut into the wall above one bedroom door.
"There were three of us up there at one time," Mr. Freeman recalled. "All three of us hung out there. After the night was done, I said it would be funny if I put this on a room-share thing on Craigslist and see if anyone responds."
One who did was Adam Kriney, a 29-year-old experimental jazz drummer "looking for living spaces for under $200, if possible," as he put it later. He had given up his share in an apartment in Williamsburg and had been staying on various couches of friends.
"Look, I'm looking to live in a crawl space," said Mr. Kriney, who said he spent his money on rehearsal space. "What do I really need besides my laptop, a sleeping bag and a suitcase?"
The mattress ad caught his eye.
"I kind of thought it was like a cubby cubbyhole where I could hang out," Mr. Kriney said in an interview. "I didn't realize it was suspended. Which isn't a problem. That wouldn't be a strange thing. It's just where I lay my head. I'm only here to do my music."
Tywan Williams, a 27-year-old "celebrity hairstylist" at a beauty salon in Queens who had found an apartment but could not move in until Feb. 1, answered the ad after sleeping on the A train the previous night.
Another response came from Melissa Sanfiorenzo, a 25-year-old photographer just back from Spain and trolling Craigslist for a room for $400 to $500 a month.
"When I saw the ad, it's like, 'This is really nuts,' " Ms. Sanfiorenzo said. "I figured being there, with time maybe something would open up. Maybe someone will move out — of, like, the room. I mean the bed is on top but maybe there's a table or a big space."
Mr. Hart, a 19-year-old student from Manasquan, N.J., returning to New York after a semester of travel, fired off an e-mail message to Mr. Freeman: "well O.K. I already know I'm crazy, but . . . if that bed's really for rent and you're all really as crazy as you seem as well (and those strings are strong) I'm there."
He added, "Will also sleep in corner, in tent, etc. etc."
An open house for the mattress was scheduled for that Saturday, Jan. 21, between 6 and 9 p.m. Mr. Hart arrived, checked out the real estate and was willing to give it a shot. But, according to Mr. Freeman, the existing inhabitant of the bedroom in question was unenthusiastic. "Pretty much that was the point where it fizzled out," Mr. Freeman said.
Mr. Hart ended up finding a berth in a small bedroom in Woodside, Queens. He said he was sharing a room with another man in a four-bedroom apartment — "kind of like a dorm situation." The rent is $250 a month.
As for the mattress, Mr. Hart has only one regret. "I think I would have done it," he said. "Because it's, like, a good story to tell your kids."
 
that is the most hysterical article i have ever read in a long time. and i can't believe a lot of people would even consider sleeping like that! unbelievable what people would do to get a place in nyc.
 
OMG! It makes me so glad that I live in probably the best housing market in the enitre world! You can get so much bang for your buck here! Average house price with yard, garage, etc is about $130,000.
 
This reminds me of how some trains in Japan actually have very tiny rooms on the train where you can sleep horizontally on top of other mini rooms. It's like a coffin. lol
 
Irissy said:
This reminds me of how some trains in Japan actually have very tiny rooms on the train where you can sleep horizontally on top of other mini rooms. It's like a coffin. lol

Did you see the Top Model episode when they slept like that in a hotel?? :lol: It was so much fun, they were FREAKED out LOL
 
fayden said:
inky paws: geez where do u live????????

Oklahoma. I used to be in the mortgage business years ago and I loved it when people were being relocated to Oklahoma, they would be so excited about the house that they could buy. We would have young starting out couples buying houses much larger and nicer than their parent from back home! Here the thing you are going to pay the most for of couse is the location of the house or if you want land, how close it is to town. Example, my neighborhood is about 14 minutes from town can get just about anywhere in 30 minutes but far out enough I don't have to deal with all of the lousy traffic or lots of crime. Here is a good middle range example: I live on a quartler acre corner lot, 2 car garage, 2300 square feet house, 3 bedroom, 2 1/2 bath, ceramic tile counters and floor in kitchen, wood floor rest of downstairs and loft, carpet everywhere else, marble counters in all bathrooms, alarm system, in ground sprinklers, awesome landscaping (if I do say so myslef) and a custom designed in ground diving/swimming pool, quite neighbors, virtually no crime, lots of street lights, scenic entry to edition and all under $200,000! We have all 4 seasons here, but winters are pretty mild, it does get very hot and humid in summer, I think OK also has the best selections of restaurants and great food of all kinds (except for seafood - landlocked) We also have a convience store almost every mile or so in town, can't believe how much we miss these when we go elsewhere also our gas prices are probably one of the cheapest too as OK produces so much natural gas and quite a bit of crude oil. Both hubby and I drive big ol' SUV's with lots of room! the people here are some of the most friendly that you will ever meet too! also very down to earth, we are talking lots of old time oil millionaires that are just as nice as your next door neighbors! There are also a little bit of everything to do here, sports, tons of lakes, great opera and ballet companies, etc. The biggest downfall is there are not any high end shops, so the most you get here is dillards, coach, LR, Saks, Miss Jackson's etc. Also the drivers here suck, but now you have a nice and honest sales pitch of NE Oklahoma.