Sorry if this is old news. I just spoke to a Chanel 800 number rep and apparently there is a red classic flap coming out with the older style chain. He said the boutiques did not buy it, but maybe some of the department stores did. It's a different red then last year's (the color code is different). The color number is 91663 (last season's red was 81643). Hope this helps someone, I know a lot of TPFers are still looking for red.