Hi this is is my first post to the tpf. I have been visting for a while now and am always impressed by the cohesion you display as an online community. I must start my post by reiterating I have the uttermost respect and admiration for this forum. However i do have one bone of contention, that being - the authentic this threads. I recently had a listing removed from eBay because it had been reported by another user. I actually though it was removed by LV themselves and had prepared myself to go to battle with the mighty as my bag was authentic and had been purchased from a LV boutique. But it transpired it was another user who had reported it. Then to my horror i came onto this forum to have a rant and found someone had placed the link in the authenticate this thread and i guess the rest is history. The oxymoron to this story is that the response to the request to authenticate this was along the lines of looks fine to me ask for reciept. The person proceed to ask for a reciept and two concurrent events occured at the same time - first my broadband was down for two days, and then second the reciept was with the ex boyfriend who bought the bag - and i was not about to go asking him for the reciept as i'm selling it. Hence the person became irrate, i finally logged into my eBay account to found at least six questions posing as buyers - fishing for authenticity proof and tiny minions of information. Then the next morning my listing was removed. Hence the reason i started this thread was to caution you on having a blithe attitude when deeming bags fake or not. I agree there are some atrocities listed on eBay hich don't even warrant the title of fake they are a different breed of bags. In fact the listing surronding mine where hideous (plastic on handle and green gift card hideous) and this was what i believed if anything would be a driving force to mine. When in fact those went on to be sold. But occasionaly the innocent get caught up in this horde mentality of rash decision making. Please be aware of the damage that can be caused when you direct users to report listings. Fortunate for me i was not suspended but innocent users can be suspended for reports such as this. Be careful of the advice you give those seeking it. Alot of trust is put into the experinced users of this forum and you really must exercise it with caustion. You have an amazing gift and i would just urge you not to become too relaxed and cynical so give users indicatiors to misinterprate authenticity. I have seen a number of times on these boards users damming sellers for the tiniest reasons to question authenicity. I would direct you to consider a few points and rememeber ebay has as many honest sellers as it does dishonest. 1) Seller does not have reciept - is not an indicator it is a fake. I have two LV bags and a Prada bag which i do not have reciepts for as two were gifts and i lost one. 2)Feedback scores - we all have to start somewhere. I sold my first LV Speedy with a feedback score of 5. I had been a member for 18 months. Note all sellers are buisness sellers - so if someone decides they want to sell a handbag for personal reasons do not deem then con artists because they don't spend thier lives grazing ebay . If you want to use feedback as an indicator look for better tell tale signs then the number. (a) private feedback - it generally is private not because of poor feedback but because they have sold a number of what it is they are selling now. Mass selling. (b)feedback scores - check the buyer feedback items are they all small value goods like 99c or a few dollars. thisis buying feedback. (c)mutual withdrawn - how many havebeen mutual withdrawn. 3)Dustbags - listen to the sellers story. I have a prada dustbag which is now pink and has oils stains because cosmetics spilt on it in my luggage. If i was to sell the handbag (which is unharmed), i would have to advertise it as no prada dustbag but generic one available. don't be quick to judge. 4)Questions - i have friends who put listings on Ebay and don't look back until the end to see how much the have sold for and where to send it. Don't always assume a delay response in answering your questions is someone avoiding your authencity questions. However if you see they have posted answer to softer questions and completly disregarded yours then be mad. 5)Disclaimers - sellers are starting to use disclaimers now, not because they are fake goods but because of IP law. Sometimes listing brand names can be deemed an IP issue, so disclaimers actually protect sellers from VERO complaints, it's not about fooling the buyer if anything it is opening you eyes. 6)Authentic - the use of the word authentic in a listing is not always the seller trying to convince you it is real. When you list a luxury branded good ebay warning often come on explaining the VERO policy and it actually directs you to edit your listing to include the word Authentic. However when you start seeing Authentic Guarnteed 100% 200%, then worry. But the bog standard addition of the word authentic is more about pleasing ebay. 7)Low Price starts - i have seen auctions start at ridicolously low selling prices and end up at prices close to and over that in the boutiques. So again do not make sweeping judgements that a low price start is because it is a fake. Low Buy It Now price those are now a bit on shaky ground. So in conclusion please do not assume this post is an attack of your work. It is not, it is simply a request to proceed with caution with the authentic process. As for the blatant fakes please continue to go forth and destroy.