Prince Harry and Meghan Markle thread

"The perfection that comes with summertime. Picnics and barbecues, laying out by the pool with friends, and toasting to the season are high on my list. And while I generally opt to whet my whistle with a glass of rosé or crisp Sauvignon Blanc, sometimes the day calls for a cocktail. Cue the Tig Cup."

The TIG Cup is Meghan’s own riff on a Summer Cup – a summer punch-style drink, often featuring a fizzy mixer to make it refreshing and longer, plus chopped fruit for garnish. Pimm’s is a classic example – and Meghan’s own recipe isn’t far off.

The alcohol base comprises of gin and Maraschino Cherry liqueur, which sounds positively delightful. Her recipe doesn’t include measurements, so you can make it as strong or as weak as you please. On the liqueur, Meghan says “I personally loathe syrupy sweet drinks but this has just enough of a subtle sweetness that it really acts as more of a back note in the drink. Plus the maraschino cherry of it all reminds me of drinking Shirley temples as a little girl.”

This is topped up with both tonic water and soda water. Meghan suggests slightly more soda than tonic: "I don’t gravitate to the taste of tonic so I always go heavier on the soda, but feel free to […] play around with it to taste.”

Why you’d put something you don’t necessarily like in your own signature cocktail, we don’t quite understand – but we’re rolling with it.

While a classic Pimm’s might be finished with cucumber, strawberries, orange and mint, the Tig Cup’s garnish goes slightly more savoury. Meghan recommends cucumber ribbons, grapefruit rind, thinly sliced radishes, celery, lime and mint for the perfect accompaniments.

"Any or all of the listed ingredients are great, but the key pieces are citrus and herbs," she says. "If you don’t have grapefruit, lemon works. No radish, no problem."


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'She wanted drama': The inside story of the rift between Harry and Meghan and The Firm
As the Sussexes give their tell-all Oprah Winfrey interview, royal insiders reveal the 'other side of the story'


I agree with the headline, and I also feel the article - again published by a respected medium - is pretty balanced, mentioning the few positive scraps and critizising other members of the BRF. There's just too much sh*t to report about these two.

That Christmas, determined to walk side by side with William and Kate to Sandringham's St Mary Magdalene Church, rather than several steps behind, they were pictured together as the so-called "Fab Four".

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According to one person with first-hand knowledge of the events: "They insisted that they had the same inflation-adjusted budget for the wedding as William and Kate – she got the choir she wanted, the dress, the carriage procession, the tiara – she got everything she wanted but it still wasn't enough.

Just...wow.

Little did the Prince know at the time that staff had also given him a nickname: "The hostage".

I find it really interesting that a) not only did close employees see the situation exactly like we do and b) how early on that happened. Very telling.

Sources close to the couple say Ms Toubati, who was asked to sign a non-disclosure agreement, was sacked for misconduct, pointing out neither staff member made complaints of their own to HR. Ms Toubati's friends deny she was sacked for misconduct.

Are they seriously trying to ruin someone's future career prospects to cover up for their sh*tty characters? Maybe Ms. Toubati should consider a lawsuit.
 
Too old lol! The ingenue won’t like that!
A bit of a drop in acting quality from Olivia Colman too.
MM can’t even sound sincere talking about herself and well... we all saw that skit with Harry and Ed Sheeran (shudders)
From Oscar winner to dog’s dinner.

edit: just checked and OC’s Surname is spelt without an e
 
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Turning their ire on the Queen, bad move! :frown:

Drunk on their own drama: Harry and Meghan say relentless negativity forced them out... yet these joyously positive front pages prove the opposite. SARAH VINE unearths the real cause for their TV high noon

Few things exemplify Britishness more than dear old Marks & Spencer.

So when, in May 2018, the Windsor branch changed its name to ‘Markle and Sparkle’ in honour of the marriage of Harry Windsor to Meghan Markle, it felt like the ultimate stamp of approval.

Swept away by the giddy excitement of a royal wedding — and not just any royal wedding, the marriage of Princess Diana’s younger son, that brave little soldier who carved his name on all our hearts the day he walked behind his mother’s coffin just aged 12 —we were as entranced by Meghan as Harry clearly was.

It wasn’t just that she was gorgeous, there was also far more to her than most royal fiancees. She had a backstory that wasn’t all pony clubs and boarding schools.

Here was a woman who had worked hard to forge a career and a name for herself, who understood what it meant to overcome adversity.
She was talented, with a successful acting career behind her; but above all else she was strong — and that was reassuring. Despite his stint in the Army, there was still a degree of vulnerability to Harry.

By contrast, Meghan was a grown-up who could stand on her own two feet, even if those feet were invariably encased in vertiginous heels that would have crippled most mortals.

It felt like Harry had chosen wisely: someone capable of withstanding the inevitable challenges of becoming a royal consort and providing him with the solid foundation he needed to leave the past behind and start building a family of his own.

For two decades since the death of his mother, we had watched with trepidation, never certain how the psychological effects of that trauma would play out. Successive girlfriends had never seemed quite able to cope.
But when Meghan came along it felt like he had finally found someone up to it. We could all heave a huge sigh of relief. And we were just so happy, for both of them.

My goodness, how wrong we were. It seems astonishing that we could have been so naive. For far from being the making of Harry, Meghan might just prove his downfall. All that initial goodwill and promise has been, in just a few short years, entirely squandered.

The headlines that welcomed their union so enthusiastically have slowly soured, as the couple’s behaviour has grown ever more paranoid and self-destructive.
As for Harry, with Meghan at his side he has gone from being almost universally adored to an angry, bitter, resentful and — astonishingly for someone who grew up in his circumstances — decidedly chippy shadow of his former self, clipped and stony-faced, now all but unrecognisable from the man we thought we knew.

And now, a crossroads. The next few days will determine the outcome of this extraordinary stand-off between the Queen and her grandson.

And although the forthcoming Oprah Winfrey interview will no doubt paint them both as victims of a terrible conspiracy by the British Press and ‘The Firm’ to discredit them in the eyes of the public, that same public will judge them not by their performances on the sofa of a chat show hostess, but by their actions.

In her latest clip to promote the interview, Meghan tells Oprah that now she has escaped the ‘construct’ of the Royal Family, ‘it’s really liberating to be able to have the right and the privilege in some ways to be able to say, yes, I’m ready to talk’.
But this so-called liberation comes at a cost — and Harry is the one who stands to lose the most. Stripped of his royal patronages and without any of the infrastructure that has surrounded him all his life, he now faces a future of cold, hard commercial reality.

Together they seem intent on an aggressive approach that, while perhaps satisfying both financially and emotionally in the short term, will leave them with fewer options in future.

Not even Prince Philip’s stay in hospital and his subsequent heart operation seems to have been able to soften the couple’s determination to pursue this collision course.

When did it all change for them? After all, at the moment Meghan first appeared, they had the goodwill of the nation firmly behind them. The coverage was universally positive.

And while Meghan’s complicated family life inevitably drew some attention, to a great extent it was seen as a measure of her resilience that she had managed to make her way in the world despite it. There were many, myself included, who admired her as a result.

But while so much of the focus has been on Meghan and her allegedly disruptive influence on the Prince, the seeds of this conflict were sown long before she came on the scene.
It is often the way of these things that the woman takes the blame, but that would be unfair. She was simply the catalyst for the simmering undercurrents of resentment that had long stirred deep in the heart of the Prince.

The true strength of those feelings was made abundantly clear in 2017, in a documentary filmed by the brothers to mark the 20th anniversary of their mother’s death.

The extent of the damage done to the young Prince by his parents’ acrimonious divorce, the Palace’s treatment of Diana and his father’s relationship with Camilla was painfully obvious.

While William came across as a man who had, not easily but with thoughtfulness and dedication, done his best to make his peace with the past, for Harry the hurt and anger were still raw. In particular his loathing of the Press, which he directly blamed for his mother’s death, was marked. While in some ways understandable — though her driver was drunk, the paparazzi were indeed following her — it seemed to be eating away at him in a way that was clearly toxic.

When he met and married Meghan, Harry’s anger in this respect seems to have escalated and, to an extent, become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

In November 2016, he hit back at the media in a strongly-worded statement, accusing the Press of harassment and sharp practices towards Meghan, alleging racism and, most tellingly, expressing his disappointment that he had ‘not been able to protect her’.

This goes to the heart of how and why it has all gone so horribly wrong. Even before he had proposed to Meghan, Harry had decided to go to war with those he held responsible for his pain.
He had been too young to protect his beloved mother; he was not going to make the same mistake with his wife.

In many ways, what we are dealing with here is not a 36-year-old man, but the part of him that remains an angry young boy, racked with the pain of losing his mother.

It is certainly telling that one of the first clips released from the Oprah interview was Harry saying he feared ‘history repeating itself’.

To some degree, this is understandable: but there was a strong element of Harry’s behaviour that suggested he was not only prepared to take a defensive position; he was actively spoiling for a fight.

Except a lot of the time he was tilting at windmills.

Yes, Meghan did receive a horrible amount of online abuse — but that is sadly true of almost any high- profile woman.

Of course there was a huge amount of media interest in her family, some of whom turned out to be self-interested attention-seekers, hoping to profit by association.

Nevertheless, the compliments were flowing for her: ‘Dazzling debut’, ‘a very modern royal’, ‘magic’. At every turn she garnered praise.

But it was almost as if the couple had developed a narrative of victimhood that they were determined to pursue wherever possible.

Perfectly legitimate questioning of their subsequent behaviour — of their doom-mongering about climate change allied to their proclivity for private jets, of their clear preference for the company of celebrities over royal duties — was interpreted by them, entirely erroneously, as rooted in prejudice.

The truth is, the attention they received was by no means any worse than previous royal couples had endured. In fact, it was much better. Kate Middleton had a torrid time of it, humiliatingly dubbed ‘Waity Katie’ for the time it took William to propose; poor Camilla was frequently painted as an evil witch in contrast to the saintly Diana; even the Queen has had to endure speculation about her marriage over the years.

However hurtful and damaging these other royals might have found these stories, they all found ways of turning public opinion in their favour. With the help of advisers, they managed to carve out the privacy they needed within the context of wider scrutiny.

But right from the start, Harry and Meghan insisted that everything had to be done their way.

Witness the rapid turnover of staff in their private office, not to mention subsequent accusations of bullying, now being formally investigated by the Palace.

Again, they handled the Press with all the skill and maturity of petulant teenagers, reducing those around them — people who only wanted the best for them — to emotional rubble.

It’s these accusations of staff bullying that will ultimately prove problematic for them. Not just back home in Blighty but also in their adopted land of California, where bullying is as much of a no-no as sexual harassment.

Witness the downfall of Ellen DeGeneres, once the undisputed queen of American TV, brought low by a bullying scandal very similar to the one that now threatens to engulf the Sussexes. It won’t play out well for them in their new life among the gilded ranks of politically-correct Hollywood celebrity to have something like that hanging over their heads.

But perhaps the biggest mistake Harry and Meghan have made is to turn their ire on the Queen.

If they had made a decision to simply walk away on the grounds that the trappings of fame and fortune were, ultimately, too much to bear, no one would have blamed them. It is a tough existence and one that not everyone can stomach. No one could begrudge Harry for wanting a quiet life.

But that is not what they have done. They have deliberately courted publicity. And instead of bowing out gracefully from royal life, they have embarked on an astonishing smear campaign against the very people and institution to which they owe their exalted status.

It is one thing to walk away from the House of Windsor; it is quite another to torch the place on the way out. Lecturing the Queen, who has dedicated seven decades to her country, on the nature of ‘service’ is not only absurd — especially when you consider they lasted, by comparison, five minutes — but extreme arrogance.

Bleating about privacy while selling details of their existence to the highest bidder, and styling themselves as ambassadors for kindness and compassion and allegedly causing material distress to a woman whose husband is seriously ill in hospital, is not acceptable.

Allowing the monarch to be cast as some sort of mafia boss — ‘were you silent or were you silenced?’ Oprah asked of them — is unforgivable.

As for claiming that the whole experience — lavish wedding, free houses, hot and cold running staff and every conceivable privilege —was ‘unsurvivable’; that’s just insulting to the millions of souls on this planet whose lives are truly insufferable, not to mention the many thousands back home who have spent the past year doing their best to survive the pandemic without the benefit of 14 bedrooms and a swimming pool.

It’s a sad, sorry situation. No doubt they — and the fans who buy into their tale of victimhood — will see their audience with Oprah as triumphant retribution for their suffering.

But there will be many more who will see it for what it is: The delusional, one-sided ravings of a couple drunk on their own drama.

The all Drama here!
 
I agree, and MM failed the little girls. That makes me sad and mad.
TBH I think encouraging girls to aspire to princesshood is negative anyway.

If you ain’t born one you gotta marry a prince. Is focusing your ambitions on marrying a stranger based on his status a positive thing?
I wouldn’t have though so. I’d say it’s shallow and unrealistic.
Why not encourage them to do what makes them happy regardless of limiting ideas of status and wealth?

Also if you just love royal pageantry and drama but want to see different faces there are many royal families of colour around the world it’s just a lot of people are too lazy to want to learn about different cultures and the mainstream media is supply and demand.
 
Well, Twitter is abuzz with celebs who are supporting her and won’t believe anything negative said about her.

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I’ve lost what respect I had for Jameela Jamil. It’s one thing to say protect black women as they get unfair scrutiny: I don’t agree that’s what’s happening in MM’s case but I can see why you might think that.
It is another to start making a joke of sexual abuse to try and prove some straw man point.

JJ is a pop music DJ who fancies herself a political commentator.
 
For two decades since the death of his mother, we had watched with trepidation, never certain how the psychological effects of that trauma would play out. Successive girlfriends had never seemed quite able to cope.
But when Meghan came along it felt like he had finally found someone up to it. We could all heave a huge sigh of relief. And we were just so happy, for both of them.

My goodness, how wrong we were. It seems astonishing that we could have been so naive. For far from being the making of Harry, Meghan might just prove his downfall. All that initial goodwill and promise has been, in just a few short years, entirely squandered.

THIS THIS THIS.

I'm one of the people who always had a soft spot for Harry. He reminded me of my little brothers walking behind that coffin, and I was initially happy he had found someone who seemed good for him. Then the engagement interview aired. Then the infamous quote about "the family she never had". And it all went downhill from there.

When did it all change for them? After all, at the moment Meghan first appeared, they had the goodwill of the nation firmly behind them. The coverage was universally positive.

The moment we saw her true character shine through...the arrogance, the selfishness, the unwillingness to adapt and accept her place in the royal pecking order.

The extent of the damage done to the young Prince by his parents’ acrimonious divorce, the Palace’s treatment of Diana and his father’s relationship with Camilla was painfully obvious.

The thing is, at some point you can expect a grown man to get over it. There are lots of children of divorced parents, lots of children whose parents hated each other, cheated, created a horrible atmosphere at home. But very little of these children have Harry's privilege and ressources, and very little spiral so completely out of control.

Nevertheless, the compliments were flowing for her: ‘Dazzling debut’, ‘a very modern royal’, ‘magic’. At every turn she garnered praise.

But it was almost as if the couple had developed a narrative of victimhood that they were determined to pursue wherever possible.

Perfectly legitimate questioning of their subsequent behaviour — of their doom-mongering about climate change allied to their proclivity for private jets, of their clear preference for the company of celebrities over royal duties — was interpreted by them, entirely erroneously, as rooted in prejudice.

Exactly.

The truth is, the attention they received was by no means any worse than previous royal couples had endured. In fact, it was much better. Kate Middleton had a torrid time of it, humiliatingly dubbed ‘Waity Katie’ for the time it took William to propose; poor Camilla was frequently painted as an evil witch in contrast to the saintly Diana; even the Queen has had to endure speculation about her marriage over the years.

EXACTLY.

If they had made a decision to simply walk away on the grounds that the trappings of fame and fortune were, ultimately, too much to bear, no one would have blamed them. It is a tough existence and one that not everyone can stomach. No one could begrudge Harry for wanting a quiet life.

But that is not what they have done. They have deliberately courted publicity. And instead of bowing out gracefully from royal life, they have embarked on an astonishing smear campaign against the very people and institution to which they owe their exalted status.

EXACTLY!!!

Allowing the monarch to be cast as some sort of mafia boss — ‘were you silent or were you silenced?’ Oprah asked of them — is unforgivable.

If you think about it it's laughable...if the gullible wouldn't eat it up like candy.

It’s a sad, sorry situation. No doubt they — and the fans who buy into their tale of victimhood — will see their audience with Oprah as triumphant retribution for their suffering.

But there will be many more who will see it for what it is: The delusional, one-sided ravings of a couple drunk on their own drama.

One can only hope.
 
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I’ve lost what respect I had for Jameela Jamil. It’s one thing to say protect black women as they get unfair scrutiny: I don’t agree that’s what’s happening in MM’s case but I can see why you might think that.
It is another to start making a joke of sexual abuse to try and prove some straw man point.

JJ is a pop music DJ who fancies herself a political commentator.

Doesn't everyone these days?

I'm shocked how many celebs out themselves as poorly informed in all aspects of the issues they publicly speak/post about.
 
From Quora (I stumbled upon it trying to figure out what a yacht girl is LOL):
"Savoy Bancroft
, Attended University of Michigan and earned masters degree in
Answered February 1, 2021

A yacht girl is a prostitute………they service rich men on their yachts when they have parties. I live in the states and knew of her nasty past….yacht girl, porn actress long before anyone even heard about her and Suits. She was on Epstein’s yacht at the same time as Prince Andrew and knew him before she knew Harry. And if anyone wants proof do your research……I am not Google……do your own home work if you have any smarts you will find the proof."

My oh my. :amazed::shocked:

Well, I don't know if this is true or not, but a video, posted many pages back in this thread, of M on a roof top (I think) dressed very provocatively and cooking a barbecue with very sexually explicit movements, really had me baffled:shocked:! What nice honest girl would do that????? Maybe I'm just old.......
 
If Meghan just wanted to speak out... why wouldn't she do it with a statement or address it herself in a video she posts to their website, social media, etc? She's been "liberated" for a year plus now.... she HAD to "muzzle" HERSELF until the right paying opportunity came along? :confused1: Why can't people see through this?
And she is with child bump.
 
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You know, I am starting to take a liking to him. At least he tells it like it is.



Though I will say I was under the impression that at that time staff also said Harry before Meghan had not treated them like sh*t on the regular, but was spiraling out of control leading up to the wedding.



I can believe she said that. It sounds just like what her deflated ego would tell her. It is gross.



I was not a fan of Khashoggi while he was alive and working as a journalist, but may I add, just in case someone missed it....sawing him up while he was alive and conscious?



See, this is what I meant earlier. This woman has no morals and no principles that can't be overruled by her greed and her need to feel important. At this point I think she'd sell Archie if it would benefit her. She probably will, in the divorce negotiations.
Couldn’t agree with you more, especially the last two sentences. I’m thinking even her mom’s days are numbered, unless of course she knows where the bodies are buried, so to speak.