Prince Harry and Meghan Markle thread

marietouchet

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Back in film class in University, we watched Leni Riefenstahl’s 1934 documentary-style propaganda film, "Triumph of the Will" which is when I learned of what editing and musical score can do to our emotions.

I’m not comparing the two films, obviously! but just watching that trailer, I could see the power of the image, the atmospheric sound under spoken word meant to manipulate the message and evoke an emotional response, plus the utter lack of spontaneity... so thank you, University Film class 101!
Leni R, a powerful woman/artist, inspiration for MM surely, does anyone remember …
Bryan Ferry of Roxy Music got into a boat load of trouble praising the artistic power of the artist, unfortunately he was then taken for being a Nazi sympathizer, rather than a degreed university art devotee
Funny how beautiful art can be used to promote bad messages
 

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^^ “Thesaurus?? Is that some kind of dinosaur??”
— Handbag
Yes, that sounds like HCMH's style and a wise person would answer Handbag thusly, "Great question and the answer is 'no' but if you riffle through the pages, you will find TW under 'Velociraptor' and yourself under 'Traitorous or selfish or ungrateful for starters depending on your reading skills."
 

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I think it has to do with how Fulani answered it IMO. Its obvious Fulani didn't want to answer it, I mean get a hint lady susan! lol. If someone asks where I'm from and I say Brooklyn and if you dig for more than that, it's your own grave!!

Agree with ^
I’ve been asked this question many times by well meaning, usually older people (some non Caucasian)
I grit my teeth and answer it, but it did bother me for decades bc it made me feel very brown skinned
and something of an outsider.

IMO Lady Susan was incredibly rude and entitled, and as such a trusted representative of rhe BRF, she should have been briefed or at least known better than to press on. She should have stepped down and then made a public apology herself, rather than relying on an official spokesperson. had she done that, I believe she would have diffused some of the negativity that followed W & K in Boston.

I’ve posted before that I do not doubt that there is racism in the BRF; I only doubt that Meghan, who identified as Caucasian for most of her life, was made to feel unwelcome or suicidal bc of race.
 

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Leni R, a powerful woman/artist, inspiration for MM surely, does anyone remember …
Bryan Ferry of Roxy Music got into a boat load of trouble praising the artistic power of the artist, unfortunately he was then taken for being a Nazi sympathizer, rather than a degreed university art devotee
Funny how beautiful art can be used to promote bad messages
I wouldn't call Leni Riefenstahl's blood-chilling Nazi propaganda film ‘beautiful art’ though.

I was just saying watching 'Triumph of the Will' all those decades ago, I learned how a filmmaker can manipulate us in order to evoke an emotional response. And that’s what I saw in this Netfl*x trailer - lots of manipulation and not a lot of unvarnished truth.
 

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The MM sugar-laden US fashion press is coincidentally whining about the W&K visit, such timing ….

Also the V Low article in today’s Times is titled Sussexes on warpath

Fulanigate was last month , lol, so I has trouble seeing if the Times reported it yesterday - last month’s articles need to be reloaded

Boston Is Apparently Really Angry That the Royals Are Visiting

 
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Normally I don't go down the rabbit hole BUT I am a bit more suspicious now knowing that Ngozi is a Megs stan and has often said things against the BRF, such as Megs being a victim of domestic violence by her in-laws...the hell????? Why was she even invited or agreed to attend if she felt this way about the BRF?

Of course it doesn't change the fact that if this went down as stated, LSH was rude and inappropriate, but now I am left wondering if like someone said yesterday that Ngozi was ready to play.

People are upset



Yeah, I prefer to hear both sides of a story before wading in, so I post hesitantly …
On one side, @papertiger nailed it, my thought too was LSH was acting more “elite” than racist … throwing her “royal lineage/connections blah blah” around … and when Ngozi didn’t fawn and submit to LSH’s class elitism, she continued to attempt to intimidate (IF it happened as one of the two parties stated).
From Ngozi’s side - and I know it’s not a popular viewpoint - I’ve noticed people with a chip on their shoulder, an “axe to grind,” find a reason to justify that chip over and over and over again. She’s posted a hatred for the BRF … why was she there at all?
 

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The hypocrisy of Harry is really astonishing. He claims to want privacy and to be an ordinary fellow and flees to Canada and then the U.S. because he feared for his little family's safety at the hands of the nasty British tabloids and press. Then he proceeds to cart around a film crew for a year or more, invading his own privacy, filming all around and inside their home, and then broadcasts a heavily edited version of their lives. For what purpose? I guess since they haven't produced any other original content in almost 3 years, they had to fall back on selling access to their own lives to at least partially fulfill that Netflix contract. So, did they let Netflix film at all hours of the day and night? Did they recreate certain "scenes" because a camera crew was not around 24/7? Imagine saying to Harry . . . wait, don't tell me about your grandmother's health, we have to get the Netflix crew here so that they can capture my reaction! This is all just bizarre. Harry's created his own Truman Show.

All they will be showing is ancient history too. Is anyone really interested in behind the scenes at the Invictus Games last year or earlier this year or whenever it was? Meghan's pregnancy? Both were years ago. I think all they will end up revealing is that they hate Harry's family for refusing to give them the half-in /half-out deal they desperately wanted and that the two of them are utterly self-absorbed and not very bright. Just like Meghan's podcasts revealed.
 
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