Prince Harry and Meghan Markle thread

I think she overstates it a tad. Americans are not "easy to please"... we just don't bat an eyelash at self-promoting people making $$$$ from doing nothing remarkable. Hello, Kardashians, RHO (every US metro), basically every Bravo show, etc... we don't recognize royalty so why on earth would we have high expectations of them.

Exactly. I think the big difference is that in the US they're perceived as "yet another pair of celebrities", whereas in the UK they were truly expected to be humanitarians, represent the queen and do some good in the world.
In the US, they're no different than any other celeb / influencer like the reality TV bunch, and people know and accept they do everything possible to stay in the news. People may click articles and take fashion cues from MM, but no one will take them seriously as actual contributors to society. People don't think of them as humanitarians any more than they do the average housewife. That's also why I think the queen taking or not taking away the titles is irrelevant in the US - the titles did the job to make them a household name and now no one cares.

So if their wish was to build fame and fortune as yet another empty-headed celeb famous for being famous - they may very well succeed, but if they expect to be respected and taken seriously like the Obamas or Oprah, they will fail miserably, because they are as fake and transparent as they come.
 
So, she is now woke and he is now woke, right? I did not know the beholder could declare himself woke. Thought wokeness is bestowed by others on a person. If they have to tell us they are woke, are they really woke? A conundrum.

Looks like she is copying KimK‘s look. Tsk tsk.
What is she wearing? Leather pants? Is it cold there or something? She definitely does not dress like a royal anymore.

I watched 30 seconds and then couldn’t watch any more.
 
I wonder though, if she can just say "I'm working on my UK citizenship, I plan to become a dual citizen, blah blah blah" and then not work on it at all and let time pass? Though, the Queen could call that bluff and tell her they could fast track her citizenship so that she could retain her Duchess title. Perhaps that is not possible though for political reasons? Maybe they can't fast track it and she has to go through the usual process which includes a general residency requirement of 5 continuous years (thanks, internet)!

When they first got married, that wasn't likely considered an issue. They thought she'd, you know, actually live in the UK since she married Harry. So, the 5 years would pass and she'd get her citizenship. Now, its a huge stumbling block when she will likely only spend a few days each year in the UK. So, yeah, the Queen likely could move on removing her title at some point, but I think she is letting events unfold.

Good point.

Yet, what I'm saying is that until she is granted British citizenship she cannot be a duchess (by law) and and has no entitlement to use the title - anywhere.

It would be like doing a professional course and putting letters after your name bofire taking the exam. Just because you're taking a course doesn't mean you've qualified. It's legally fraud to present yourself as something you're not entitled to be.

I think the reason why they were granted use their titles early was because of WORK as A) any minute she was going to become British and B) capitalising on the momentum of their popularity at the time of their marriage, taking on Royal Duties and patronages.

It could have also been because the Queen absolutely not want the incorrect title of Princess Megan to be in common usage (as happened to 'Princess Diana)

She has abandoned her pursuit of her British citizenship and she's stopped working (on behalf of BRF/UK). She no longer has any claim to the title she uses.
 
This was published in The Sun newspaper

THE Mail on Sunday this week won a bid to use Finding Freedom as part of its defence against Meghan Markle's privacy claim.
Today, the publisher revealed 49 details from the book they allege show the duchess cooperated with the authors of the biography.
The details include:
  1. Personal correspondence between Meghan and her mother Doria Ragland
  2. Details of Doria's employment and educational history
  3. Meghan's personal conversations with a co-worker at a soup kitchen in Los Angeles
  4. Her weekly routine while at Northwestern University
  5. How Meghan felt about having to shoot a sex scene while she was a struggling actor in 2008
  6. Her feelings around her relationship with her ex-husband, Trevor Engelson, who has never spoken publicly about their marriage
  7. Detailed account of Meghan's relationship with Cory Vitiello
  8. Details about Meghan and Prince Harry's first date - including whether they kissed goodnight and what they drank
  9. Information about their second date at Prince Harry's then home, Nottingham Cottage - including details of the decor of the house
  10. Who said 'I love you' first
  11. Detailed account of their holiday in Botswana in 2016 including where they stayed and her bathroom routines
  12. Prince Harry's relationship with Prince William before and after he met Meghan
  13. A report on the advice Thomas Markle gave Meghan Markle about money management
  14. An account of Prince Harry's first meeting with Doria
  15. Text messages Meghan sent to friend Jessica Mulroney
  16. Details about Prince Harry's conversations with Thomas Markle
  17. What happened when Meghan met Prince William as well as a description of Prince William's home
  18. Meghan's feelings about finding out a Suits love scene she had starred in was uploaded to Pornhub
  19. Advice given by the Palace communications team and Meghan's reaction
  20. Prince Harry's daily routine during Christmas time in 2017
  21. Meghan's relationship with Kate Middleton and how she felt about the duchess
  22. Prince Harry's feelings about being photographed at a wedding in Jamaica in 2017
  23. Details about the wedding reception of Pippa Middleton and James Matthews
  24. Details of their holidays to Turkey and Botswana in 2017 - including who hosted them and what they ate
  25. Information about a conversation between Prince William and Prince Harry about the Duke of Cambridge's feelings about Meghan Markle and the impact on their relationship
  26. Meghan's feelings about Harry's proposal
  27. How Meghan felt about leaving Toronto to move to London
  28. How Meghan felt about meeting the Queen for the first time in October 2017
  29. Meghan's communications with her mum after moving to London
  30. Details about Christmas celebrations in 2017 including how Meghan felt about the brooch worn by Princess Michael of Kent
  31. Meghan's feelings about a friend Ninaki Priddy speaking to the press about her
  32. Meghan's faith and private conversation with Justin Wlby, the Archbishop of Canterbury
  33. What Prince Harry said at the altar to his father and Meghan Markle just before the wedding ceremony
  34. Detailed account of speeches at the couple's wedding along with what was on the menu
  35. Details of the couple's visit to Lake Como to spend time with George and Amal Clooney
  36. Information about a private meeting between Meghan, Harry and the Queen to pick the duchess' wedding tiara
  37. An account of a disagreement between Prince Harry and one of the Queen's assistants, Angela Kelly
  38. Details around Prince Harry and Prince William's estrangement
  39. Details about Meghan Markle's baby shower and the Palace's reaction
  40. Meghan's birth plan
  41. Private correspondence from Prince Harry and Meghan to their friends after Archie's birth
  42. Details of gifts after Achie's birth
  43. Prince William and Kate Middleton's childcare arrangements
  44. Meghan's work on the SussexRoyal Instagram account
  45. Meghan and Harry's feelings about the Palace communications team
  46. Meghan and Harry's living arrangements while in Canada in 2019
  47. Details about the Sandringham summit
  48. How Prince Harry felt about the split from the royal family
  49. Meghan's feelings about her last engagement as a royal at Westminster Abbey
So much info about her 'feelings' - it's almost as if Scobie could read her lips.
Hahahahahaha
Or her notes/diary
 
Yippee, now they are preaching to the UK. Guessing this is part of the half in-half out plan. The way they are sitting, my my, he is mansplaining and manspreading. She looks, uh, uneven. Both are super glossy and blurry, just like Khloe and Kim.


Ha, I was just thinking... maybe this is why they felt the need to move to the US: now they feel license to lecture both countries equally.
 
Now we know what kind of oppression she was enduring while in England. It's an example of how she was merely existing because she was not allowed to wear leather pants. There is likely a dramatic chapter about it in Finding Freedom. :rolleyes:

Don’t forget the slash top! This is how to modernise the dusty old BRF. Wear slashy clothes. :eek:


 
Don’t forget the slash top! This is how to modernise the dusty old BRF. Wear slashy clothes. :eek:


I don’t normally comment on clothes because I care about accessories, not clothes... but why wear a shirt that makes your chest look droopy?
 
Don’t forget the slash top! This is how to modernise the dusty old BRF. Wear slashy clothes. :eek:


She's just an LA girl trying to teach the world how to be the best they can be (meaning be just like her). You have to love how so many of the articles about it identify and provide the prices and links so readers can buy her outfit for themselves. Opportunists abound! :biggrin:
 
This was published in The Sun newspaper

THE Mail on Sunday this week won a bid to use Finding Freedom as part of its defence against Meghan Markle's privacy claim.
Today, the publisher revealed 49 details from the book they allege show the duchess cooperated with the authors of the biography.
The details include:
  1. Personal correspondence between Meghan and her mother Doria Ragland
  2. Details of Doria's employment and educational history
  3. Meghan's personal conversations with a co-worker at a soup kitchen in Los Angeles
  4. Her weekly routine while at Northwestern University
  5. How Meghan felt about having to shoot a sex scene while she was a struggling actor in 2008
  6. Her feelings around her relationship with her ex-husband, Trevor Engelson, who has never spoken publicly about their marriage
  7. Detailed account of Meghan's relationship with Cory Vitiello
  8. Details about Meghan and Prince Harry's first date - including whether they kissed goodnight and what they drank
  9. Information about their second date at Prince Harry's then home, Nottingham Cottage - including details of the decor of the house
  10. Who said 'I love you' first
  11. Detailed account of their holiday in Botswana in 2016 including where they stayed and her bathroom routines
  12. Prince Harry's relationship with Prince William before and after he met Meghan
  13. A report on the advice Thomas Markle gave Meghan Markle about money management
  14. An account of Prince Harry's first meeting with Doria
  15. Text messages Meghan sent to friend Jessica Mulroney
  16. Details about Prince Harry's conversations with Thomas Markle
  17. What happened when Meghan met Prince William as well as a description of Prince William's home
  18. Meghan's feelings about finding out a Suits love scene she had starred in was uploaded to Pornhub
  19. Advice given by the Palace communications team and Meghan's reaction
  20. Prince Harry's daily routine during Christmas time in 2017
  21. Meghan's relationship with Kate Middleton and how she felt about the duchess
  22. Prince Harry's feelings about being photographed at a wedding in Jamaica in 2017
  23. Details about the wedding reception of Pippa Middleton and James Matthews
  24. Details of their holidays to Turkey and Botswana in 2017 - including who hosted them and what they ate
  25. Information about a conversation between Prince William and Prince Harry about the Duke of Cambridge's feelings about Meghan Markle and the impact on their relationship
  26. Meghan's feelings about Harry's proposal
  27. How Meghan felt about leaving Toronto to move to London
  28. How Meghan felt about meeting the Queen for the first time in October 2017
  29. Meghan's communications with her mum after moving to London
  30. Details about Christmas celebrations in 2017 including how Meghan felt about the brooch worn by Princess Michael of Kent
  31. Meghan's feelings about a friend Ninaki Priddy speaking to the press about her
  32. Meghan's faith and private conversation with Justin Wlby, the Archbishop of Canterbury
  33. What Prince Harry said at the altar to his father and Meghan Markle just before the wedding ceremony
  34. Detailed account of speeches at the couple's wedding along with what was on the menu
  35. Details of the couple's visit to Lake Como to spend time with George and Amal Clooney
  36. Information about a private meeting between Meghan, Harry and the Queen to pick the duchess' wedding tiara
  37. An account of a disagreement between Prince Harry and one of the Queen's assistants, Angela Kelly
  38. Details around Prince Harry and Prince William's estrangement
  39. Details about Meghan Markle's baby shower and the Palace's reaction
  40. Meghan's birth plan
  41. Private correspondence from Prince Harry and Meghan to their friends after Archie's birth
  42. Details of gifts after Achie's birth
  43. Prince William and Kate Middleton's childcare arrangements
  44. Meghan's work on the SussexRoyal Instagram account
  45. Meghan and Harry's feelings about the Palace communications team
  46. Meghan and Harry's living arrangements while in Canada in 2019
  47. Details about the Sandringham summit
  48. How Prince Harry felt about the split from the royal family
  49. Meghan's feelings about her last engagement as a royal at Westminster Abbey
Oh, but they are mistaken. The authors took "creative liberties" remember? :rolleyes:
 
Yep, I refrained myself from commenting on her views on Randy Andy. Though, she was very right on predicting the success of the duke & duchess in the US. I'm not very pleased with the media here these days. Hypocrisy seems to be welcome and contagious. We need more factual journalism.
The "news" media in the US today is more like the National Enquirer. Rubbish.