Ok, I went to see this last week and swore I wouldn't buy it..I went back today to tell them that I wasn't going to buy, and I bought it! lol This bag really is the perfect de hobo! It's so soft and slouchy, the strap is..well, it's perfect, it's a little stiff, and it might end up with cracking issues, but it's really pretty. The drop is very low, so definitely not an armpit bag (I love my artsy, but don't carry it because the drop just isn't low enough. This one is fine, and it definitely seems like as the canvas gets softer it will be even slouchier. I definitely love slouchy bags, and this one is fabulous! The lining is dark brown, which makes it dark inside, but it's so chocolately and dreamy that I don't mind. My SA would not give in and let me bring it home today, but it's being shipped TOMORROW! Here are some regular pics... http:// And here's a horrible picture of me..lol..but gives a good idea of the under arm clearance! lol I didn't have a jacket with me, but I'm pretty sure this will fit over a jacket with no problem! Hope this helps any on- the- fencers!