I have been searching for info on this and I believe the guru I need to talk to is Hermesgroupie? My Kelly has a 2 in a circle and it is vintage but I'd like to pin down when it was made. I found a post from Hermesgroupie back in June of this year that mentions this - any further info? I posted a similar question a few minutes ago in the Reference thread before I found the other post. Any help is appreciated!