Please help me - glue ruining my ring

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TrinketTattle

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Apr 10, 2013
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Hello everyone,

A few weeks ago I bought a ring without looking at it properly. It didn't cost a lot (30€) but I overpaid by at least 25. Somehow I just had to have it, but the ring was in a horrible shape. The band was broken (doesn't bother me a lot), it was extremely dirty (cleaned it now) and the moonstone is scratched quite badly.

But the worst is: you can clearly see a 'circle' of glue through the stone. If the glue wasn't that visible, I know I could get over all the other imperfections.

Does anybody have advice about how I could get the stone out without ruining it completely? That way I would be able to clean it and put it in a different setting.

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The last picture shows the obvious traces of glue :(
 
The only idea I have is to heat the base of the ring there, the bottom metal under the stone and see if it liquifies the glue and the stone will come out easier. Otherwise a jeweler is gonna need to do it.
 
Thanks dmitchell and ame! I'm afraid it will be really hard to find a jeweler in my town that would want to try :( the only ones I can think of don't want to work with 'inferior metals', like SS..
 
I am sorry but this looks like base metal....MAYBE SS with a glass stone. I don't know of the jeweler that would work on costume jewelry of this quality.

The seller assured me it was SS (it has a stamp), but I have to say I have also had my doubts. It has a certain weight to it, so I'm just assuming it's silver because otherwise I feel even more depressed for buying this ring LOL.

Same story about the stone, I've googled a lot, but didn't get a lot wiser about how to REALLY know if something's a moonstone or not. They say it feels 'cooler', which is the case.

If it's fake, that's another lesson learned.. :(
 
No idea about getting the stone loose, but I have to say that it doesn't look like a moonstone to me. Usually moonstone had a base color with a glow of other colors. Yours looks like it wants to be a opal. Is it a doublet, two stones or material used to make one? If so, you cannot heat it or it may get damaged.
Can you use some needle nosed pliers to bend the metal away from he stone?
 
Yes, they assured me it was real and I paid 30€, which is almost 40 USD :(

You're not going to get any real opal for $40.00 U.S. It's just a shaving, which is then attached to plastic. While it may be a silver of "real opal," it's more likely plastic. I'm afraid they weren't honest with you. This is definitely a doublet. Real Opals (U.S. money) run $200 and up, and for any quality opal ring or item, you're probably talking over $500. I would take this to a quality jeweler who does appraisals if you'd like to be sure, and then perhaps get your money back. But it doesn't look like a genuine opal. I'm pretty sure any reputable jeweler will be honest with you and let you know this is imitation. I'm sorry this happened to you, but typically when things sound too good to be true, they generally. Genuine opals, unless they are poor quality, aren't cheap. And genuine opals with a lot of blue in them (not milky) can run into the $1,000 range. There is no way you can purchase a genuine opal with a lot of blue in it for $40.00. Unfortunately, this one doesn't even look real. I'd take it in and then if you're not happy, I'd get in writing what it's made out of and try and get your money back. I hate to say it, but this doesn't even look like a real opal doublet. They can run into the $200.00 range and are usually thinner and very flat on the surface.

I think this is probably an opal triplet.

Here's a little article:

"Triplets
Triplets consist of three layers:

1.A black backing as above

2.A paper-thin slice of opal in the middle

3.A clear glass, quartz, or plastic capping in the shape of a dome. The slice of opal in a triplet is usually extremely thin (paper-thin) so the clear capping serves to give the stone a nice cabochon on top. The clear capping may also magnify the colour of the opal slightly, and also serve to protect the opal.
Because triplet opals have a clear non-opal capping on top, it is easy for an experienced person to identify a triplet immediately by the appearance of the stone. Triplets usually have a 'glassy' appearance and the light reflects differently from the top of the stone. You can look at the side of the stone to identify a straight line where all the layers meet, and also look at the back of the stone. If the back of the stone appears to be black plastic then you are not looking at a solid stone. Be aware however that it is also very common for a backing to be made of black potch (exactly the same stone which forms the backing of a natural black opal) or brown ironstone (which is also the natural backing for Queensland boulder opals).

Triplets are normally cheaper than doublets because they contain less real opal. Because the top of the stone can be made from synthetic material, triplets can be a lot more resistant to impact than solid or doublet opal stones. (Opal by its nature is a fragile gemstone)."

Here's some pictures of opal triplets - as you can see, they look a lot like your stone. They run $10 to $20 at auction.

http://www.opalauctions.com/auctions/triplets/
 
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You're not going to get any real opal for $40.00 U.S. It's just a shaving, which is then attached to plastic. While it may be a silver of "real opal," it's more likely plastic. I'm afraid they weren't honest with you. This is definitely a doublet. Real Opals (U.S. money) run $200 and up, and for any quality opal ring or item, you're probably talking over $500. I would take this to a quality jeweler who does appraisals if you'd like to be sure, and then perhaps get your money back. But it doesn't look like a genuine opal. I'm pretty sure any reputable jeweler will be honest with you and let you know this is imitation. I'm sorry this happened to you, but typically when things sound too good to be true, they generally. Genuine opals, unless they are poor quality, aren't cheap. And genuine opals with a lot of blue in them (not milky) can run into the $1,000 range. There is no way you can purchase a genuine opal with a lot of blue in it for $40.00. Unfortunately, this one doesn't even look real. I'd take it in and then if you're not happy, I'd get in writing what it's made out of and try and get your money back. I hate to say it, but this doesn't even look like a real opal doublet. They can run into the $200.00 range and are usually thinner and very flat on the surface.

Thank you for your comment, I really appreciate it. The seller didn't tell me it was an opal though, he said it was a moonstone. But I should never ever have paid that amount for a ring that was so black (I could barely read the 925-stamp) and had so many flaws. Unfortunately I won't be getting my money back, he didn't give me a receipt :( (what was I thinking, really! This guy can't be trusted)

The seller also sells secondhand designer bags and has a lot of publicity in our local newspaper/local magazines, but now I wonder if those bags are authentic, if he's capable of selling me a completely worthless ring..

Many thanks to everyone for their comments, time to buy a new ring to forget about this one :graucho:
 
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