Hmm I'm not sure..the guccissima holds up pretty well though I think. My only hobo in guccissima is my D ring and the top of the bag slouches when I put it down cuz the D ring is sooo heavy. Since the pelham doesn't have hardware any place else than the strap, I don't think it will slouch? Can you go to a Gucci store or NM, Nordies, etc to try these out first?Thanks very for your reply and welcoming response. I like the hardware on the pelham too!! I know they have this same med pelham in black guccissima..(Yep - black being the only thing i can decide upon firmly). Unsure though as to whether the pelham in guccissima leather would have as bigger slouch to it as the monogram?