Yesterday I went to Barneys fully expecting to get a certain Balenciaga wallet. I loved the allover studded one in black. But OMG - I saw a dark green one with RH that was just beautiful. This color was labeled vert foret, forest green. It came home with me. I cannot believe how practical this is. It fits everything and more. I'll get pics up late today. Now I've been reading about pine green and am a little confused. When I was looking for and reading about the all over studded wallets and matching clous bag, a poster said she saw it (the clous bag) at NM in pine green. I did not see it in a green color, but Barneys had matching shoes to the clous bag. Wow, they were great!. The shoes came in black and a green color. The shoe green was NOT the same color as the vert foret, or forest green, of my wallet. The shoe green was much lighter and looked like a pine needle color. The forest green of my wallet was like the crayola forest green color. So when we talk about green colors, vert foret (forest green) and pine, are we talking about the same color??? BTW - my wallet is not thin or dry feeling. I'd love a hobo or day w/SGH in this color!