I got both from eBay and I am positive they are authentic. Love them so much...the black MP is honestly an instant favorite in my collection. I can't wait to use it tomorrow! They were both used, but the bag looks brand new on the outside. The ZC shows a little bit of wear, but when I get a used bag (with a mark or something), I'm less afraid to use it. Weird, I know. I'm so so happy with both purchases. Just wanted to share - thanks for reading.