Hi @yolo-lilly, if you like natural eyes, then I can recommend Dr Seo at MVP who did my eyes. My avatar is my eyes 9 months post revision inc DES+lid fat graft. Minimal swelling and just some bruising postop.
Negative Clinic Experiences
- Thread starter Phreakcodex
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Hey. just wondering why you needed fat graft to the lids? Was it because you had too many lines? How's the fat grafting doing for u up there? Is it disappearing?
I read all of the pages and I was going to book with Grand hospital and now I'm super scared and I confronted them about the death they had. They told me no to worry and they have CCTV cameras during the surgery and that family members could keep an eye on you.
What other clinics are the best for face lifting and fat grafting other than GRAND.
What other clinics are the best for face lifting and fat grafting other than GRAND.
You can check The line clinic or MINE clinic.....
It's not about the CCTV , Once something goes wrong, CCTV can do nothing!
Hope you find a good surgeon for your surgery.
I have just got back from Seoul where I flew to get a third facial fat graft from DA clinic (Delightful Aesthetics). I am writing this review under negative experiences because I was so badly treated it needs to serve as a warning to others who choose this clinic.
I had had 2 prior face fat grafts at DA in July and September 2016 and had complained of the extensive thigh bruising with the first fat graft so for the second Dr Kim bandaged up my thigh intraop and post op there was very little bruising. However this time in April 2017 he chose not to bandage my thigh and I awoke to extensive thigh bruising for the removal of only 35 ccs of fat graft for my face. But this isn't the worst of it.
I had paid 2.5 million for 2 face fat grafts for July and September and this year negotiated by kakao for 1 million for the third. I had started negotiating at 700,000 won as last year one fat graft was 1.8 million won and the second if booked at the same time would bring it to a total of 2.5 million. We agreed at 1 million and DA on kakao said their regular price was 1.5 million for fat graft. I arrived in Seoul with 1 million cash and the next day fasted arrived for my surgery at DA. I saw Dr Kim and he suggested forehead and temples as well as cheeks, nasolabial folds and marionette lines but I later changed this to not include the forehead after the immense swelling and bruising last year. Then I was taken back to a consulting room where manager Ahn instead of taking my 1 million told me we were starting all over again! I could not believe my ears! Jet lagged, fasted and in surgical clothes, she was demanding more money! She went on through Emily the interpreter to say their regular price was 5.5 million for face fat graft but could give me 20% off so I needed to pay her 3.8 million won now! She refused to accept the kakao agreement of 1 million! I was shocked at how unethical and dishonest this clinic was being! I explained that I had the kakao screenshot of the agreement and had booked my flight and hotel from the UK to arrive April 20 and to come to DA for a third fat graft as agreed for 10 am April 21 and how I was flying back April 25. I tried to show her the fasting instructions and the confirmation on DA's kakao but she went on about a third fat graft means to start all over again. I said but it is not to forehead just cheeks and chin. She said it does not matter, it is treated the same at a regular price of 5.5 million. I replied I had never paid 5.5 million or 3.8 million last year. Finally Emily the translator pulled her out to discuss. I was about to report them for fraud!
She came back in and took my 1 million won and gave me no receipt. I was then taken into a room to wait from 10 am to 2:30 pm to finally get my third face fat graft. I was taken to theatre and on the table a nurse put the BP cuff the wrong way and the cuff inflated and inflated into my arm never picking up my brachial artery as it was put on the wrong way. I yelled in pain...take it off, take it off as it continued to crush my upper arm! Dr Kim came in and had the nurse take it off and called for the specialist anaesthetist.
I awoke from GA! Not IV sedation! The gases were awful and my throat hurt. I had a bronchial cough but worst of all my left thigh was in agony.
When I finally got a mirror and saw my thigh, I wept. My face was so swollen and distorted and my thigh extensively bruised all along the inside of my thigh. My friends thought it could not have been done by a senior. I asked Dr Kim in follow up why he did not bandage my thigh. He said because he did not believe I would bruise.
I will never go back to DA again. Here is a photo of my face and thigh from DA when I got back to my room.
I had had 2 prior face fat grafts at DA in July and September 2016 and had complained of the extensive thigh bruising with the first fat graft so for the second Dr Kim bandaged up my thigh intraop and post op there was very little bruising. However this time in April 2017 he chose not to bandage my thigh and I awoke to extensive thigh bruising for the removal of only 35 ccs of fat graft for my face. But this isn't the worst of it.
I had paid 2.5 million for 2 face fat grafts for July and September and this year negotiated by kakao for 1 million for the third. I had started negotiating at 700,000 won as last year one fat graft was 1.8 million won and the second if booked at the same time would bring it to a total of 2.5 million. We agreed at 1 million and DA on kakao said their regular price was 1.5 million for fat graft. I arrived in Seoul with 1 million cash and the next day fasted arrived for my surgery at DA. I saw Dr Kim and he suggested forehead and temples as well as cheeks, nasolabial folds and marionette lines but I later changed this to not include the forehead after the immense swelling and bruising last year. Then I was taken back to a consulting room where manager Ahn instead of taking my 1 million told me we were starting all over again! I could not believe my ears! Jet lagged, fasted and in surgical clothes, she was demanding more money! She went on through Emily the interpreter to say their regular price was 5.5 million for face fat graft but could give me 20% off so I needed to pay her 3.8 million won now! She refused to accept the kakao agreement of 1 million! I was shocked at how unethical and dishonest this clinic was being! I explained that I had the kakao screenshot of the agreement and had booked my flight and hotel from the UK to arrive April 20 and to come to DA for a third fat graft as agreed for 10 am April 21 and how I was flying back April 25. I tried to show her the fasting instructions and the confirmation on DA's kakao but she went on about a third fat graft means to start all over again. I said but it is not to forehead just cheeks and chin. She said it does not matter, it is treated the same at a regular price of 5.5 million. I replied I had never paid 5.5 million or 3.8 million last year. Finally Emily the translator pulled her out to discuss. I was about to report them for fraud!
She came back in and took my 1 million won and gave me no receipt. I was then taken into a room to wait from 10 am to 2:30 pm to finally get my third face fat graft. I was taken to theatre and on the table a nurse put the BP cuff the wrong way and the cuff inflated and inflated into my arm never picking up my brachial artery as it was put on the wrong way. I yelled in pain...take it off, take it off as it continued to crush my upper arm! Dr Kim came in and had the nurse take it off and called for the specialist anaesthetist.
I awoke from GA! Not IV sedation! The gases were awful and my throat hurt. I had a bronchial cough but worst of all my left thigh was in agony.
When I finally got a mirror and saw my thigh, I wept. My face was so swollen and distorted and my thigh extensively bruised all along the inside of my thigh. My friends thought it could not have been done by a senior. I asked Dr Kim in follow up why he did not bandage my thigh. He said because he did not believe I would bruise.
I will never go back to DA again. Here is a photo of my face and thigh from DA when I got back to my room.
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This was my face the day before Dr Kim at DAPRS clinic performed fat grafting. I had asked for fat grafting to the malar cheeks to lift my cheeks and a bit to the nasolabial and marionette lines. A kakao friend chose to have her full face fat graft at MVP for 1 million and she did not have the amount of swelling and bruising that I did. I looked way prettier before Dr Kim operated on me on April 21! And today April 26 my thigh bruising has extended down into my lower leg.
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I know what you are thinking! Why did I go back after the first fat graft distorted my face (see attached photos), it was because I had already prepaid for 2 and Dr Kim assured me he would bandage my thighs for the second fat graft and be gentle and he was. July 2016 I awoke to a monster face and both thighs bruised to my knees but in September I awoke to hardly any bruising on my face or thighs and went touring Tokyo. It was as though 2 different plastic surgeons had operated on me. So I trusted Dr Kim that on the third go, it would be like the second experience and not the first. Interestingly I had GA for the first and third and IV sedation for the second! I confronted Dr Kim as to why I had very different outcomes from 3 face fat grafts and he insisted there had been no shadow doctor and he blamed my blood vessels saying they changed during one's period. I told him I had reached menopause years ago. Emily the kakao person for DA and interpreter messaged saying I could ask for the cctv. I made an appointment to see Dr Kim and asked for the CCTV footage from the theatre. Emily then changed her mind and said it was illegal to have cctv in the theatre. She suggested showing me the cctv from the corridor. But clearly Dr Kim did not want her to show me as she then said no, she cannot show me the corridor as that too is illegal. I asked how patients could get a video of their surgery and she replied this could be negotiated in advance. All too dodgy for me. Here are the immediate photos from my first fat graft. You tell me if I had the same doctor for all 3 fat grafts? Next post is after my second...no thigh bruising and a lovely face when I got back to my room!
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Here Is my photo after the second face fat graft at DAPRS which clearly is much better than immediately after the first and third fat grafts. No wonder I kept wondering if I had a shadow or trainee doctor for the first and third fat grafting! My thighs had little bruising as they were bandaged intraop and I was walking in Tokyo 2 days post with no thigh pain either. And my face looked fab immediately after and for days following. No distorted monster face! If you choose DA, expect swelling and extensive bruising as they do not bandage the donor thigh site as other clinics do and the results are variable which will make you forever doubt who did your surgery as they did not provide me cctv even when they suggested they could.
