I ordered these recently and not sure about them. When I took the Sloane out of the box I thought it was way to big and with all its paper stuffing it was uncomfortable under the arm. Without the stuffing and the natural slouch makes it much nicer but the drop isn't very long which makes it a bit hard to get in and out of. It reminds me so much of my Veneta but not as flat. The color code on it is 1301 , anyone know the offical color? Its a dark brown. The black bag is nice but I'm not liking the opening. It folds over to close or sometimes just stays open. Not even a magnetic closure like the Sloane. Plus the rings are starting to chip. (see photo). If I decide to keep I should get more of a discount from Bluefly. Do you think they would honor that? Boxermom - don't you have this style and are your rings chipping? The more I walk around with them and check them out, the more I like but still not 100% sure. Maybe its the guilt of getting two bags at once. ush: Excuse the outfit, I just got back from tennis.