Well, I'd been on the look out for a 2005 bordeaux first, and thanks to a wonderful tpfer, here it is! It's definitely preloved- I believe I'm actually the 3rd owner. It's very broken in already...the leather is super soft. But, after waiting all this time to get my hands on 05 leather... it's nice, but my 2006 black first has leather that's just as nice. I was hoping it'd be thicker. Still, I'm thrilled to have a red bag. Yay! And hey, this is my only bbag (so far) that has handles softened enough to go over my shoulder.