My Experience at BRAUN PLASTIC SURGERY (DES, Rhino, & Breast Augmentation)

[wengielo]

Hi everyone,

I want to share my very 1st plastic surgery experience with everyone here. Other people who have posted have given me the confidence to fly to South Korea alone and have various procedures done and I want to do the same for others who are in their researching part of their journey.
Most people thought I was crazy to go alone to South Korea and have plastic surgery for multiple procedures and they're not wrong. I'm quite independent and would never want someone to spend their precious vacation days being my nurse, it's just not something I wanted to do. Nonetheless, I would suggest you find a surgery buddy to room up with just in the case you have an emergency or cannot get up (for BA).

I want to preface this that I did not receive a discount for posting this and neither was I sponsored.

SURGERY CLINIC - Braun Medical Group at 857 Nonhyeon-ro, Gangnam-gu, Seoul

• The location was easy to walk to from my hotel at Patio7. It was about a 10 minute walk and was close to other plastic surgery clinics too.
• Visit the Korean website and translate in English, there's way more content there about the surgeries available or provided.

SURGEONS - Eyes + Forehead Fat Graft - Dr. Lee Wu Seop; Rhinoplasty + Breast Augmentation - Dr. Lee Ji-Won

SURGERIES

• Double eyelid surgery - incisional outline style, epi upper and corner, lateral outer and lower
• Rhinoplasty - alarplasty, tipplasty with donor rib cartilage, osteomy, and silicone implant
• Breast augmentation - 340cd Motiva Ergonomix Demi Round

PRICE - Eyes + Forehead Fat Graft +Rhinoplasty + Breast Augmentation = $16.8M KRW + VAT

• The price was very affordable but not so cheap that you would be afraid you may be going to a clinic that didn't have an anesthesiologist.
• In Canada the cost would be have been eyes $6M KRW, fat graft $5M KRW, rhinoplasty $12M KRW, and breast augmentation $10M KRW.

ONLINE CONSULTATION - Day 0

• I had my online consultation with Jennifer who was prompt in answering my questions and giving me a quote. There was no pressure (unlike some clinics like JW PS - they asked 'how about facial contouring, it was honestly offensive and off-putting) to do additional surgeries. I started my conversation with her prior to the quarantine restrictions being lifted and she respect that I didn't want to proceed with the surgery until quarantine is not required. When quarantine was not almost required anymore, she informed me prior.
• Originally I only planned to get double eyelid surgery and rhinoplasty done so I only paid a deposit for these procedures about 1.5 months prior to surgery date. Last minute, I found out they had Motiva breast augmentations via their Korean website not their English and asked on the Friday 1 week before surgery date if they would be able to add procedure in for me. I think they moved around some surgeries or consultations because they actually had to change my surgery day to Saturday instead of Friday because of the BA.
• Jennifer got back to me with good news that they could do all the procedures at once. She also didn't request for additional deposit either although I offered.

CONSULTATION - Day 1
The consultation took place one day before my surgery since I had to get blood work and x-rays done for my breast augmentation. I found little issues with the procedures, consultants, and surgeons during this time except the following.

• The surgeons here appear very busy, so one thing I found that they lacked is communicating the potential complications related to the surgeries I had. For example, a forehead fat graft because its close to the arteries feeding your eyes, there is a chance for blindness. Having multiple surgeries done could have complications related to Edema or DVT (deep vein thrombosis) especially if you lay in bed the entire time. These are serious post-surgery complications that should be explained by your surgeons prior to paying for the surgery. Instead, these are read to you briefly about 30 minutes before your operation by your patient coordinator.
• Both surgeons made me feel comfortable that they would do a good job with my surgeries but I would highly suggest bringing a print out of all your questions. When they asked if I had questions, I completely blanked out twice - during my consultation and also 15 minutes before my operation.

SURGERY DAY - Day 2
My surgery took place on a Saturday and was going to be a total of 8 hours. Yes, 8 hours! I'm going to keep this brief since I have a very short recollection of memories.

• Pre-operation before photos
• Pre-operation consultation - If you have questions ask again! I didn't have many because I blanked out, likely because of my nerves.
• Operation
  • It felt unreal, like a movie or TV show. Laying on the operating room table made me feel very nervous, so I told Jennifer who stayed with me the whole time with some jokes to help with my nerves. The most PAINFUL part is the IV. I had the IV to the ankle, luckily they got my vein on the first shot. I would have been horrified if it was twice.
  • Because my surgery was 8 hours under sedative anesthesia and general anesthesia I had to have a ureter inserted which honestly I don't recall at all, but wow, if I was awake please give me some laughing gas.
  • The anesthesiologist matched the photos on the website (phew!) and checked my teeth before the surgery. I let them know multiple times I had veneers and they said they would be careful to not break them. Keep in mind that you do sign a waver that your teeth my break since there's always a chance.
  • They gave me some 'oxygen' which I think is actually something else to ease my mind before they injected my IV with the sedation chemicals. I blacked out.
  • I dreamed the entire time being in Las Vegas with my girlfriends partying in a dark night club. Then whoosh I remember someone telling me 'Wake up, breath, you have to get up'. I seriously though I was black out drunk and getting up it was a bit funny now looking back at it.
  • EXTREME NAUSEA the worst nausea I have experienced in my entire life which went on the whole night every time I tried to get up. The 4 hours with no water and no breathing through the nose were the worst. I honestly regretted my decision for surgery because of how uncomfortable I was and how difficult it was to breathe (my throat was closing because of the lack of water and breathing through the mouth).
  • Because of my extreme nausea I opted to stay over night at the clinic and Jennifer stayed with me even though it was uncalled for in my case (usually this is only for facial contouring surgeries). I stayed until 6AM that day with Jennifer and she drove me back to my hotel, this was so nice of her! I really appreciate her for doing all of this even though there was no notice.

POST-OP DAY 1 TO 5

• Day 1 - Hardest day - nausea was still bad, throat was dry, drinking water often caused me to choke because you can't breathe through your nose, and the same thing with food. I ate a couple nibbles of a soggy sandwich and tried to sleep it all off.
• Day 2 to 4 - The days got increasingly easier after they removed the nasal cottons from my nose. Eyes were super greasy and blurry with the ointment so be careful walking around outside because the drivers are quite aggressive here. Also, they should name their BA rapid recovery because I was able to pretty much do everything and everything except picking up very heavy objects.
• Day 5 - Splint removal day. Honestly my eyes were so healed even the surgeon was shocked. Removal of stitches didn't hurt for me and neither did the removal of the splint. It was just uncomfortable.

BEFORE & AFTER

• The moment you've been waiting for, here are my before and after photos for my facial surgeries (day 5 post-op). I look like a completely different person even my boyfriend is confused whenever he talks to me. I almost look a bit mixed?
• Nonetheless I love my outcome! I was going for the dolly look and I think that's what I achieved. Being specific with what you want and how you want it is what I think is the key to my surgery.
• There's still lots of swelling on my nose, but it looks great already. They informed me the bridge and tip will be narrower. Because I asked for S-line upturned nose, it is currently overprojected upwards so that when it drops in following months it would maintain a degree of that upturned look.

Please feel free to comment below if you have questions and I'd be happy to answer.
I will add my BA once I am able to take my 1st shower and as they drop and continue to update my post with the recovery journey in the months coming up.

 

[wengielo]

POSITIVE FEEDBACK

• Online consultation was prompt and not pushy. Answered my plethora of questions to the best of her ability.
• Price was very affordable compared to other clinics in Gangnam that had English translators.
• Gave me a discount on Motiva BA (I paid $8M KRW where other clinics in this area quoted $15M).
• Fast and efficient pre-operative procedures
• Jennifer (English translator) was there with me the whole time from start to literal finish. I really enjoyed her company.
• Surgeons gave me a good vibe about their attitude and experience with surgery. I felt like I was in good hands. Canadian plastic surgeons I met often had a non-chalant attitude which I didn’t appreciate.
• They achieved exactly what I was looking for eyes and nose. I didn’t expect what I asked for made me look so different but I do like it.
• Post operative recovery was PAINLESS. I recovered so quickly that I wasn’t sure if it was my body or the surgeons skills. Someone tell me (the after photos above are 5 days post op).
• Clinic was clean and accessible by walking or transit. It’s right next to a subway exit.
• Post operative treatment for deswellkng and breast augmentation gives me peace of mind about the healing process. This is done at least twice during your post operation (I think 3 times if you stay up to 14 days post operation)

NEGATIVE FEEDBACK

• Lack of professional explanation about complications from surgeons, I shouldn’t be the one bringing them up.
• Lack of education on post-operative diet. I wasn’t told what to eat or not eat. I studied nutrition so I have a good sense of high inflammatory foods or foods that increase blood pressure which helped with my recovery.
• Lack of education on what not to do after breast augmentation. Like, don’t walk too fast the implants or increase your blood pressure too high during the first couple of days to prevent over bleeding or worse, edema.
• Missing pharmacy products that were needed for post-op (Q-tips for applying ointment and explanation of which was painkiller - I have high pain tolerance and would have preferred not to take them for 10 days straight since it’s very bad for your colon)
• Lack of clear communication on post-operative schedule. I like to have my day planned out like a calendar and I never really knew the time or what exactly was happening until one appointment before the next. This may just be me, but knowing what exactly is being done calms my anxiety.
• Detailed receipt of what was being done - I don’t actually know or recall what type of insertion method was used for my BA. I think it’s dual plane because it’s more common in Korea unless you have high amount of breast tissue. This is just nice to have but not a requirement.

OVERALL
I have yet to get my final results but things are healing great. I’ll update my main post when I get to the 1 and 3 month mark.

 

[male_whonotconfident]

hi thank you for your review I consider this clinic for my revision as well can I PM you asking some question if you don’t mind?
thank.

 

[wengielo]

POST-OP DAY 14
The swelling on my nose, eyes, and forehead have subsided a lot. I am very happy with the end result for the most part but there are some areas of concern that I hope will fix themselves or I can have done in-office.

EYES

• Outline incisional - I had very uneven eyes before. I think they turned out pretty even, and the scar has already diminished a lot. I can still feel them with my finger but they aren't super noticeable unless you're staring (no fat removal required).

• Epicanthoplasty upper and inner - I really like how this turned out. Many people have commented how 'open' my eyes look and I think it's because I had the entire Mongolian fold removed.
• Lateral canthoplasty outer - This healed up quickly and well. I can see a slight 'trapezoid' shape which isn't natural but its barely noticeable unless I put on eyeliner on the waterline.
• **Lateral canthoplasty lower - This one is super noticeable, but it's really uneven. One of my eyes is lower than the other making me look googly and a bit crazy. It's on the eye on the left. You can see that there is more WHITE under my pupil than the other. They let me know that they would over direct the lower canthoplasty but if one is lower than the other, I can only expect it to continue to be uneven. I will probably have to go back for revision for the lower canthoplasty. If anyone is thinking about doing lower canthoplasty be ready for irritated/dry eyes. I think this technique of lower canthoplasty with eyelash retention involves a permanent suture (similar to non-incisional eyelid surgery) because I wake up with some pretty dry eyes.
• Overall - I'm happy with the majority of the eyelid procedures except for the lower lateral canthoplasty. I'm going to have to wait to see if the left lower canthoplasty evens out over time. If not, I will probably get it fixed because it does make my look googly.

NOSE

• Bridge silicone implant - If you are getting a silicone implant and you have a very skinny forehead, be ready for it to look a bit fake since the implant sits quite straight on the bridge. I was going for the dolly/barbie look so I really don't mind it.
• Osteotomy - I am glad I got this. I knew it had to be done because I felt them sticking out and making my nose look flatter.
• **Tipplasty - Not sure if it's swelling at the tip or if they didn't remove additional cartilage/fat from my tip. My original tip area was very flat with low definition. They indicated that adding cartilage to the tip would help with my bulbous tip but I think it's still not 'tight' enough. I've watched some videos online about bulbous nose correction and I don't think they took additional techniques to give me that defined tip from the front profile. If you're looking to reduce the bulbous tip, perhaps look into another clinic that has lots of these cases.
• **Alarplasty - The alars were reduced and it's quite a natural result. The alar base though still looks about the same width to me. I know it's not recommended to have a significantly reduce alar base, but I wanted a dramatic result. I'll see if I'll grow into it but I'm probably getting another alar reduction so that my nose base width first perfectly between my eyes.
• Overall - The before and after were pretty dramatic and the end result is SUPER close to what I wanted. The side profile and the 45-degree angle looks amazing. I think a couple tweaks and I will be even happier with the result. Hoping they can do it in-office so I don't have to get sedation anesthesia.

FOREHEAD

• Fat graft - I like how it matches my new nose and makes my entire face look smooth. It will take another 2 weeks to see how much of the fat survives but so far, the swelling has subsided a lot. I can still feel the fat on my forehead when I wash my face but it's definitely less than originally. I'm planning to go back for a touch up especially the area where I don't think they were able to put a lot (between my eyebrows) because I had a splint there. I'd put a tad more just so that I can hide the 'mean bones' between my brows.

 

[tahco]

hi your review was amazing! Question though, how was moving around after your b.a.? You said you traveled alone but were you able to move around and travel back? Luggage and everything is heavy right? I heard after b.a. you cant move your chest muscles at all. Did you find that to be an issue?

 

[wengielo]

hi your review was amazing! Question though, how was moving around after your b.a.? You said you traveled alone but were you able to move around and travel back? Luggage and everything is heavy right? I heard after b.a. you cant move your chest muscles at all. Did you find that to be an issue?

Hi Tahco,

It was honestly a bit crazy for me to be alone with a B.A. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone if you could avoid it.

Day 1 Post Op (Drinking Water & Showering) - BA
Getting up off the bed was really hard. You want to prevent really any muscle usage. I forced myself up by tensing up my core and using pure core strength to get up off the bed. Make sure to have all water bottles opened before your B.A. You won't be able to open anything afterwards. I had 2L waters next to me and honestly, I could barely pour them so I only drank about 1L the first day since the 2Ls were too heavy to lift. I didn't shower or anything this day, the nausea was unbearable.

Day 3 Post Op (Moving Hotels) - BA
I was scheduled to move hotels (don't try this, stay at the same one for full 10 days if possible, I was stupid to think I was invicible) I had LARGE luggage and getting the sides up to zip needed to be strategic. Instead of using my arms, I used my feet with shoes on to kick close all my luggages. I used my feet to also kick up the large luggage onto its spinners by propping it against the wall. No arms used. Dragging this luggage was just as difficult. I used my foot to kick forward the large luggage and used my arms like hooks to drag the small luggage behind me. It was terrible. Taxi driver didn't help me take out the large luggage, I was worried to injure myself but I didn't know how to ask them for help since almost all taxi drivers did not speak a speck of English. From that moment on, I used PAPAGO and a translation app and saved the message in Korean to show them.

Day 4 to 9 Post Op (Shopping) - BA
Shopping is super hard. You cannot carry much in your hands, I would suggest a tote bag that can be slung on your shoulders. Even then you cannot go too heavy but it's much better than bags held in the crook of your hand or in your hands.

Day 10 Post Op (Leaving Korea) - BA
I needed to fly out back to Canada. Luckily the PS had arranged a large van to take me to the airport. Nonetheless, closing the luggages required strategy. I used my hands and arms like hooks and did a full squat to get these luggages up without the use of my chest muscles. Never once did this method fail me. The hardest part was moving the luggages through the airport. You will not have the strength to pick up the luggage and put it on to a trolley. Don't bother unless you find a nice attendant who wants to help you (good luck...) I almost cried at Incheon airport because I had a backpack and two luggages trying to find the PCR test printer (the directions are completely wrong) and then back to the check-out desk. Honestly, don't bother with a backpack check absolutely everything in. It's so hard to put on a backpack without stretching your chest muscles. I had to have nice people in the airplane craft put up and down my backpack from the carry-on cabinets. I didn't mind explaining my situation but I don't think most would be open to saying 'hi, could you help me put this up and take it down I just had a B.A.' Because I had a layover I had to pick up my checked luggage from the roster twice. The large luggage was manageable because I knew how to hold my core and use my legs and hips to drag out the luggage. If I wasn't a gym-trained person, I doubt people can get away with this easily without hurting yourself.

Recommendation

• Request airport help and get wheelchaired out. You can get this by adding a note to your flight.
• Don't move hotels like I did. It was stupid and very dangerous for your B.A.
• Don't use a backpack. It stretches your chest muscles to get it on.
• Wear a fanny pack, not a messenger bag. Bring a tote bag that sits comfortably on your shoulder for shopping.
• Keep water bottles under 1L and all lids open or else you risk not being able to open any. It was hard to open them even on day 5 and 6.
• Keep food light, don't bother with soupy foods that are really heavy because you won't be able to really carry them with ease onto the table. I had salads and small congees for 5 days straight.
• Bring 2 medium luggages instead of a large, a large is a behemoth size to drag and take off the luggage roster.
• Practice getting up off the bed without the use of your arms multiple times before you get your B.A.
• Add 3 to 4 pillows behind you on your bed before you go for your B.A. even a pillow can be hard to move after your B.A.

I hope that helps.

 

[morning_Lily]

Thank you so much for being so brave to post your pictures. It seems that you have had really complicated procedures. I just got my surgeries from Dr. Ryu from Braun. Glad to see that your result is awesome.

 

[wengielo]

Thank you so much for being so brave to post your pictures. It seems that you have had really complicated procedures. I just got my surgeries from Dr. Ryu from Braun. Glad to see that your result is awesome.

You’re welcome!

Yes, I had 4 procedures done at once with some very specific details I requested. I’m super happy with the result so far (about 2 weeks) and hoping for recovery process to take it even closer to the result I pictured!

Healing has been a breeze so far. I expected the worst after watching videos of people getting nose jobs and breast augmentations in US (just on its own each). I have to give it to the surgeons and the clinic for doing such a great job.

Did you get incisional or non-incisional?

 

[morning_Lily]

You’re welcome!

Yes, I had 4 procedures done at once with some very specific details I requested. I’m super happy with the result so far (about 2 weeks) and hoping for recovery process to take it even closer to the result I pictured!

Healing has been a breeze so far. I expected the worst after watching videos of people getting nose jobs and breast augmentations in US (just on its own each). I have to give it to the surgeons and the clinic for doing such a great job.

Did you get incisional or non-incisional?

I got the incisional method for my eyes.

 

[morning_Lily]

I am curious about BA. How long does it take to recover? Not fully recovered, but just able to carry heavy-ish stuff. Thanks a lot.

 

[wengielo]

I am curious about BA. How long does it take to recover? Not fully recovered, but just able to carry heavy-ish stuff. Thanks a lot.

Hi,

I'm only 2 weeks post-op right now so I can't provide much in terms of answers. But I would say that I still can't carry much with my hands only or open closed jars/bottles.

You probably need a total of 6 weeks (when the capsule around the implant is fully formed) to be carrying anything 10lbs or heavier with your hands only.

If you have a good understanding of muscle usage and movements you can get away with lugging a massive 50lb luggage off a conveyor belt (which I did during week 1 because I had no other choice). If you're able to structure the weight balance to be managed by other muscles such as the trapezoids and back you can get away with more weight.

Right now, I can carry a 2L jug of water with my hands for a short period of time (about 5lbs).

 

[bananauyoo]

POSITIVE FEEDBACK

• Online consultation was prompt and not pushy. Answered my plethora of questions to the best of her ability.
• Price was very affordable compared to other clinics in Gangnam that had English translators.
• Gave me a discount on Motiva BA (I paid $8M KRW where other clinics in this area quoted $15M).
• Fast and efficient pre-operative procedures
• Jennifer (English translator) was there with me the whole time from start to literal finish. I really enjoyed her company.
• Surgeons gave me a good vibe about their attitude and experience with surgery. I felt like I was in good hands. Canadian plastic surgeons I met often had a non-chalant attitude which I didn’t appreciate.
• They achieved exactly what I was looking for eyes and nose. I didn’t expect what I asked for made me look so different but I do like it.
• Post operative recovery was PAINLESS. I recovered so quickly that I wasn’t sure if it was my body or the surgeons skills. Someone tell me (the after photos above are 5 days post op).
• Clinic was clean and accessible by walking or transit. It’s right next to a subway exit.
• Post operative treatment for deswellkng and breast augmentation gives me peace of mind about the healing process. This is done at least twice during your post operation (I think 3 times if you stay up to 14 days post operation)

NEGATIVE FEEDBACK

• Lack of professional explanation about complications from surgeons, I shouldn’t be the one bringing them up.
• Lack of education on post-operative diet. I wasn’t told what to eat or not eat. I studied nutrition so I have a good sense of high inflammatory foods or foods that increase blood pressure which helped with my recovery.
• Lack of education on what not to do after breast augmentation. Like, don’t walk too fast the implants or increase your blood pressure too high during the first couple of days to prevent over bleeding or worse, edema.
• Missing pharmacy products that were needed for post-op (Q-tips for applying ointment and explanation of which was painkiller - I have high pain tolerance and would have preferred not to take them for 10 days straight since it’s very bad for your colon)
• Lack of clear communication on post-operative schedule. I like to have my day planned out like a calendar and I never really knew the time or what exactly was happening until one appointment before the next. This may just be me, but knowing what exactly is being done calms my anxiety.
• Detailed receipt of what was being done - I don’t actually know or recall what type of insertion method was used for my BA. I think it’s dual plane because it’s more common in Korea unless you have high amount of breast tissue. This is just nice to have but not a requirement.

OVERALL
I have yet to get my final results but things are healing great. I’ll update my main post when I get to the 1 and 3 month mark.

i share your sentiments on the negative feedback. i mean i didn't go to braun but that's very me as well when it comes to things like that. i would very much like to be as prepared as i could too. it seemed like the clinic needs to be prompted before they would share on things like side effects or even precautionary stuffs in korea.

that being said, would you be able to share what are food to avoid and good for eating for liquid diets?

 

[wengielo]

i share your sentiments on the negative feedback. i mean i didn't go to braun but that's very me as well when it comes to things like that. i would very much like to be as prepared as i could too. it seemed like the clinic needs to be prompted before they would share on things like side effects or even precautionary stuffs in korea.

that being said, would you be able to share what are food to avoid and good for eating for liquid diets?

AVOID
High inflammatory foods
Liquids that trigger increase in blood pressure

• Beef
• Deep fried
• Coffee and liquor
• Sugar (can’t avoid it completely but things like candy, cakes, fruit juice)
• Pre-workout or “power drinks”

TRY
Deswelling and non-inflammatory foods

• Alkaline water (I drank at least 6L on my first 4 days post surgery)
• Vegetables (I probably had over 8 salads with chicken during my stay)
• Pumpkin juice
• Celery juice
• Vegan protein shakes (hard to find in Korea)
• Congee

 

[bananauyoo]

AVOID
High inflammatory foods
Liquids that trigger increase in blood pressure

• Beef
• Deep fried
• Coffee and liquor
• Sugar (can’t avoid it completely but things like candy, cakes, fruit juice)
• Pre-workout or “power drinks”

TRY
Deswelling and non-inflammatory foods

• Alkaline water (I drank at least 6L on my first 4 days post surgery)
• Vegetables (I probably had over 8 salads with chicken during my stay)
• Pumpkin juice
• Celery juice
• Vegan protein shakes (hard to find in Korea)
• Congee

that's super helpful and nice of you to share! thank you so much. i think i'd find it challenging to avoid sugar then. i think most of the nutrients pack drinks for liquid diet patients do have some sugar and im also prone to dizziness without sugar on normal basis too. =(

protein powder would be fine i supposed? im blending them into my soymilk just to keep the muscle mass up. i bought collagen powder too.

oh, is alkaline water accessible in convenient stores in korea? i have only stocked up normal water in the fridge. and you mean 6L of alkaline water across 4 days right?

thank you again~ =D

 

[wengielo]

that's super helpful and nice of you to share! thank you so much. i think i'd find it challenging to avoid sugar then. i think most of the nutrients pack drinks for liquid diet patients do have some sugar and im also prone to dizziness without sugar on normal basis too. =(

protein powder would be fine i supposed? im blending them into my soymilk just to keep the muscle mass up. i bought collagen powder too.

oh, is alkaline water accessible in convenient stores in korea? i have only stocked up normal water in the fridge. and you mean 6L of alkaline water across 4 days right?

thank you again~ =D

You don’t need to avoid sugar entirely! Just try to stay away from that corn syrup stuff. Liquid diet is hard so just try your best.

I ordered these on Amazon which is. Portable water pack, pH ON-The-GO Alkaline Water Filter Pouch- Portable Alkaline Water Filtration System for Your Bottle, Pitcher, Jug, Container - High pH Water - Long-Life 400 Litre/105 Gallon (1-Pack) https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07DXC63M4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HW54EGPD5XQ3QAMRMBD3

I popped them into the giant water jugs. You can also get smaller alkaline water packets.

Yes, I drank about 2L per day across 3/4 days.

I still have the alkaline water just regularly now, I realized k wake up with a slimmer looking jawline.