Hey everyone, I've definitely admired MJ bags for the longest time, but have never owned one. Ever since I saw a girl at the local Starbucks with what looked to be a white quilted venetia I've been dying to find one. I know the girl carried it as a shoulder bag.. and I'm wondering for the majority of us - can the Quilted Venetia be carried as a shoulder bag? Or is it more of a handheld and only if your arms are super skinny it can be a shoulder bag? Also - for MJ white leather... how durable is it? Is it easily dirtied? The last white bag I got (a MiuMiu) started to yellow after a season and I swore off all white bags.. but white is just SO nice... so I'm on a hunt for one that doesn't turn yellow and is more "hardy". Can anyone help or give me some opinions? Also - if I'm looking for a white coloured quilted Venetia.. what kind of leather am I looking for? What is the regular kind? and when someone refers to "icy leather" what does that mean? Sorry if I asked some really stupid questions - but I'm just so new that I don't know any of the MJ lingo! Took me awhile to figure out what bag that girl was carrying! Thanks everyone!! Any help would be awesome!