Japster who's Bubbe??!!! CB believe me, we'll help but not paying the whole way - who could?? Cost is crazy....shopmom -- yes cosmetology would be a very Hermes friendly choice lol!! At least ds#2 will be do oh...alternative something...he's the worker...so that gives 4 yrs. for ds#1 until dd is up...yikes -- see you all in 8 yrs after the first goes!! Nah - I'll figure something out...