(not so) Funny thing. I was SO excited (after my nice chat with Charlestonmom) and went to get the 4 key holder in pomme. When I asked to see it, the SA (2 of them in fact) told me not to get it 'cause they haven't changed the style in the last 30-40 years. They said that the style is only meant to hold the skinnier keys of yesteryear and it's not made for the big chunky car keys of today! She said that she gets them in all the time (after people have had them for 6 months or so) to get fixed! Told me that people put the car keys and clickers in the holder and it hangs in the ignition and the weight makes the clips pop off. Says she tries to discourage people from buying them? So, how many people have those big chunky car keys (Toyota, Nissan, etc. etc.) and have them on the key rings?? I understand about the clicker, that it has to be on a separate ring and hang out, but do the clips from use of the car keys really pop off and break?