Is this a good diamond?

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suezyuengee

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Apr 22, 2012
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#1
Hi, I am thinking of buying this GIA cert diamond. The specs are: 1.71ct, F color, VVS2, Triple Ex, $23k. HCA score is 1.8. The dealer just sent me these ideal scope images and I don't know how to read the image. In terms of the images, is this a well cut diamond? Thanks in advance!
 
#2
Our fellow pfer ame who knows diamonds very well. i am in the same boat for diamond searching and she helps me so much. :)

i learn that table size and the depth, also the size angles are matters.

This is the information she advices.

"Total depth between 59 – 61.8%Table diameter between 53 – 57%
Crown angle between 34.3 – 34.9 degrees
Pavilion angle between 40.6 – 40.9 degrees
Girdle thickness between thin to medium, faceted (bruted isn't bad, but faceted would be better)
Culet size: none"

Hope that helps. GL to ur finding.
 
#3
Personally, I am not willing to pay the premium for a diamond with such a high clarity. You could save a lot by going down a notch or two. Check out Pricescope. It is a site full of diamond experts.
 
#4
I see no IS images. Where's the angles, etc.? I need more than an HCA to go on. I assume since you're aware of the HCA, you're familiar with pricescope and this is likely a pricescope vendor already.
 
#5
OP would you please post the idealscope images?

1.8 is a good number but HCA only uses average measurements of the major facets in the calculation so the evaluation is not accurate enough. IS images will give us much better ideas :)
 
#8
Lucky you to be in the market for a diamond like this! Exciting! I have no idea how to read an ideal scope and have never seen one before so I'm antsy to hear from the experts (lol). I'd love to see how to interpret one of these IS thingies. What is that greyish ring around the center? Is that good or is that a light leak? Also, why is there more white/pink between 3:00 and 7:00? Is that just the way the photo is taken or is that a light leak or is it asymmetrically cut? Interesting. The center grey area seems to get brighter between 3:00 and 7:00 too. So interesting! I want one of these things on my diamond!

Back to the task at hand. My opinion, I think the numbers on paper are considered in the good range but I am not sure the proportions are ideal when they work together. The pavillion angle seems too wide and the depth seems to border on almost too deep. When they are put together, I'm not sure they work in harmony. Seems a little fish-eyed to me for lack of better comparison. But I definitely do not have the skills Ame and some of the other posters have. I'm curious to see what they have to say. I could be completely off base here.
 
#10
I am hoping those are just poorly taken photos but the culet doesn't look to line up properly with the table at all which makes me question those angles being consistent around the stone/symmetry. I also don't like the numbers together. I think it's a LITTLE deep for that table percentage, and that the pavilion angle is just a hair off for working well with the crown angle.

I think you can find a better one.

What vendor are you working with? Maybe we/I can help you search their inventory?
 
#11
Allisonfaye said:
Personally, I am not willing to pay the premium for a diamond with such a high clarity. You could save a lot by going down a notch or two. Check out Pricescope. It is a site full of diamond experts.
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+1. I was at my local jeweler the other day and he was saying cut and symmetry are sometimes more important than clarity. He showed us that in order to even seem some of the inclusions, you turn the diamond to the side and shine this super bright light on it. (forgot the technical term for it lol sorry i'm no expert) I just think you can get a better deal :)
 
#12
Cut is absolutely most important, because without the best cut quality, the diamond won't sparkle, no matter how high the color or clarity are. Clarity is not graded from the side or face down, just from straight on. However, in terms of "eye cleanliness" it's very important to view them from the sides. You won't be seeing it face down, and face down they're like glass, so that's not a fair judge.

I personally don't think it's necessary for a VVS clarity, however some folks do, and in some cultures it's important as well. So if the OP wants a high clarity stone, I am not going to judge that.
 
#14
Personal preference entirely, rank cut first, but then go with your own personal threshold. I prefer VS1, personally, because it's still almost guaranteed eye-clean but it isn't at a premium price point for the clarity. A very well cut stone can mask many inclusions. VS2 is USUALLY ok, but those you have to see in person to confirm they're eye clean. While they *should be*, they aren't always, because a tiny and still visible black crystal can qualify as VS2 based on location. SI clarity stones are lots-of-photos-or-in-person-required-viewing stones. Those are not stones you want to buy blind because they're never just guaranteed eye clean. You can definitely find eye clean SI stones, however you can't just assume one will be and you need to see it for yourself.
 
#15
I would definitely go to an SI1 if you can see the stone in person or if you trust the person viewing it for you and you have an excellent return policy. What ame said is completely true; you cannot depend on an SI1 being eye-clean or the inclusions not affecting light-play, so it isn't something you should buy "blind" or be unable to return. But I think it provides an excellent value for the money. But clarity means different things to different people, and as they say, ymmv. Some people, for many reasons, prefer very high clarity stones and that's a completely reasonable and valid choice, too.
 
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