They are rouge arena bowler, and marine GH day~~ just love them!!! the bowler has the color i've been searching for for a long time, and the shape is perfect too~ the GH just gives the dark marine day alot more~~ i love the golden hardware, so sexy~!! the pix are taken without flash and with flash~ Thank all tPF for the help and i just wanna say i like this forum a lot~~!! love everyone here!!!!