how to tell OS Botkier from newer?

[sdkitty]

does anyone know how to ID and older Botkier from the newer ones? I prefer the pre-2010 leather. Can you tell from the lining or the metal tag on the inside? thanks

 

[poizenisxkandee]

I know some of the newer bags have pink or grey patterned lining and leather tags, new logo. The "latest" bag I had from Botkier was a Valentina Box Satchel from 2013 and I think still had metal tags inside and plain lining, but no more hangtag outside - the 2008-2010ish once I think did. That bag was lost/stolen a couple years back so I can't remember much else on it, but it's a fairly uncommon style as I keep trying to replace it on the secondhand market and have seen maybe one in a different color and one from the seasons after that with completely different lining/logo.

I have a 2010ish satchel from Botkier and it has metal inside tags, hangtag outside, and black logoed nylon lining.

 

[poizenisxkandee]

dustbags are also a good tell. older ones are beige/light pink-ish with light purple lettering; middle/new are black; new also are beige with darker purple/different logo.

the older metal inside tags are rounded and the newer ones are rectangular.