Grenat and bordeau are my HG colours. I picked up a purse in Grenat and the leather is gorgeous (more like an 05 leather) and the colour is TDF. The colour is not flat - it has many different shadings and changes with the lighting. It is also goes with everything. I would certainly pay over retail but not too much as they do pop up from time to time and because it is 06 leather they don't seem to go for as much as some of the earlier leathers.