The white hobo and the satchel were both outlet purchases. They were definitely amazing deals. The white hobo was mostly an accident because I ordered the Chelsea vintage leather hobo in mineral from a Coach store and got it shipped to my house and when it arrived, it was the wrong color! I was so sad. So we drove the the outlet and traded that bag for the white hobo, it's wallet, the signature print keychain, and the scarf -- all for the same price! Anyways, I'm Alicia. I'm from Erie, PA. These are my Coach bags.