Hermes Special Order Bags

Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the beginning of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
The Horseshoe stamp comes by default on special order bags. There are additional “lucky symbol” stamps that you can choose to add in addition to the horseshoe, or you can stamp initials if you’d like. These are usually done after payment.
Hi @acrowcounted

Thanks for your reply back then! I just checked my email with Hermes again. I told them about the horseshoe stamp and asked if I could let them know via email that I would like to get it stamped since I agreed to make a decision only on collection point during the appointment.

They replied “Please note that your stamp request will be managed after the purchase of the bag”

But you said the horseshoe stamp comes by default. Only the lucky charms is upon payment.

So I’m not sure their email reply is referring to the horsestamp or lucky charm since they said it will be managed only after purchase of bag.
 
Hi everyone!

I’m pretty new to the SO and I just did mine back in May in FSH. I received an email confirmation few weeks later.

Can I please check if the “gold lining” in the below sentence refers to the color I have chosen for the interior of the bag? As there was no mention of the stitching but I remember opting for something neutral as I did not want a contrast stitching.. so now abit worried if the gold lining here is the thread stitching outside.

Birkin Sellier bag, 25 cm, in "Craie" Epsom calfskin with "Gold" lining and pink gold-plated hardware,
 
Hi @acrowcounted

Thanks for your reply back then! I just checked my email with Hermes again. I told them about the horseshoe stamp and asked if I could let them know via email that I would like to get it stamped since I agreed to make a decision only on collection point during the appointment.

They replied “Please note that your stamp request will be managed after the purchase of the bag”

But you said the horseshoe stamp comes by default. Only the lucky charms is upon payment.

So I’m not sure their email reply is referring to the horsestamp or lucky charm since they said it will be managed only after purchase of bag.
I’m fairly certain there is just communication confusion here. A la Carte bags come with a Horseshoe Stamp. There is no avenue to request for it to not have the horseshoe stamp. The communication from the store is only in regard to the lucky symbols.
 
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Hi everyone!

I’m pretty new to the SO and I just did mine back in May in FSH. I received an email confirmation few weeks later.

Can I please check if the “gold lining” in the below sentence refers to the color I have chosen for the interior of the bag? As there was no mention of the stitching but I remember opting for something neutral as I did not want a contrast stitching.. so now abit worried if the gold lining here is the thread stitching outside.
Yes, gold is the interior leather color.
 
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Hi everyone!

I’m pretty new to the SO and I just did mine back in May in FSH. I received an email confirmation few weeks later.

Can I please check if the “gold lining” in the below sentence refers to the color I have chosen for the interior of the bag? As there was no mention of the stitching but I remember opting for something neutral as I did not want a contrast stitching.. so now abit worried if the gold lining here is the thread stitching outside.
Yes, you have ordered a verso B25 with Craie Epsom exterior and Gold interior (which will be chèvre) with rose gold hardware; your stitching will default to tonal 99.9999% (usually I'd say 98% but there isn't really a tonal thread for Gold, so you aren't at risk of an artisan decision to give you contrast stitch).
Sounds like an absolutely gorgeous bag, congrats!!
 
I see. Thank you for the clarification :smile:
@acrowcounted is (as usual) correct; what they meant when they told you that you could choose stamps when you collect the bag is that at that point you can choose initials or the "lucky symbols". Hermès is discouraging, and in many, maybe most, cases refusing requests to initial or otherwise stamp SOs when they are ordered. SOs DO get refused and H understandably wants to ensure nothing gets messy. Not so many years ago it was different and ordering a monogram in advance was normal and accepted.
 
So my SO that ended up not being an SO is finally home after 787 days :smile:

If you may all recall, I placed an SO for a Bleu Nuit HAC 40 with BPHW in the FSH store which was ready for pickup June 2020; because of the pandemic, they were willing to ship it to me in Canada. Initially, I did not know it was missing the HSS and it was only until asking for additional photos of the bag open, I noticed it was not present.

Initially, they were willing to stamp the bag with the 2021 lucky charms where the HSS would have gone. However, they stopped replying to my emails for an extended period (months). Out of the blue, a department manager followed up and said that they are now able to restamp the back with the HSS and of course, I was elated. Following some back and forth emails and confirming I would like to have it stamped, I was once again left without a response for an extended period with the other colleagues unable to reply to my queries. It was then mentioned that they could not stamp the bag the bag with the HSS anymore and not even the lucky charms as mentioned before; they said that somehow, although being an a la carte order, the bag was not produced as an a la carte bag which resulted in not having an HSS. They also said that they "found" this bag for me in order to have it ready to be delivered quicker. They also said they are no longer able to offer remote purchasing for other items in order to maximize stock in person and that this bag would be the only item they are able to let me purchase remotely and ship to me.

Fast forward to purchasing the bag, I was finally provided an online payment link with a 5 hr expiration period only to have my bank flag the transaction as fraud and lock my card; it certainly didn't help making the transaction at 4am my time. Initially, I thought I entered some information incorrectly so I resubmitted the payment two more times only to find out the link locks out after three attempts before calling the bank. I emailed Hermes and explained to them in order to have the link reactivated and luckily, they responded within half an hour (for the first time). The bank agent then assured me that my card is ready to go only to have it be declined and blocked once again. A second agent said it should be fine once again and they don't understand why the previous one didn't go through. I asked them why this transaction is suspicious and they said they automatically block transactions with this merchant (no they don't). They told me to try it again on the phone live with them only for it to not work only to have the link deactivated once again. This happened another time and thank god it finally went through on the 8th attempt.

After paying, there was correspondence for the couple days immediate and communication would once again cease. No updates, no tracking number, no waybills sent. I only found out yesterday that they sent the parcel out last week from a call to my number linked to my FedEx account stating that they need me to complete the POA document for customs clearance; I wasn't even expecting a parcel from FedEx and then I saw it was a larger item from Paris and I knew what it was.

Also to note, the freight forwarder they use is the same as the one used by a high end global auction house. While they do specialize in freight and logistics for high valued items, jewelry, art, etc, my experience with them hasn't been the best to say the least. Earlier this year, I purchased some paintings and watches from said auction house and this freight forwarding company did not indicate who would be clearing customs for the items - myself, the courier, or a third party broker both times; as such, FedEx wasn't able to accept and process the POA documents completed from me and the items were stuck in limbo for over three weeks, for items shipped with FedEx First Overnight.

This time, while they indicated correctly to FedEx and as such, they were able to process the docs right away, the box wasn't packed as well as how they're normally delivered to the stores with foam corners inside protecting the orange box inside and suspending it away from the shipping box; they just placed the orange box inside the shipping box and crumpled some paper inside. The box arrived damaged of course but it's okay. Also, the bag arrived with about a third of the protective stickers on the hardware missing even though I was assured previously they would ensure the stickers would be reapplied and not be peeling since it was peeling on the spindle from the photos. The front pontet that was missing the sticker is noticeably scuffed, similar to how a brushed watch looks after couple years of wearing; the feet are noticeably scuffed.

So after 787 days and 120 emails later with many hiccups along the way, the bag is finally home with me.

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Omg , I am so sorry you had to go through all of that, but. . . .this is the most beautiful bag WOW!
i am so happy for you! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
 
In my case a kelly depeches pouch or a backpack. I was a bit surprised because I thought SO should be for whatever bag I choose. But I really like my SA. I asked her if that is normal and she goes to ask and said is because in some moment I asked for that specifically so they offer exactly that and no other choice.
That’s very strange. Maybe they are trying to cut off resellers where someone takes advantage of the SO opportunity to build a nata etoupe mini Kelly to flip for 4x. Their SO budget is based on bag prices, so it shouldn’t matter to them what you make unless the price point is extremely different (which is why they limit exotic SOs and specifically offer those as such).
 
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In my case a kelly depeches pouch or a backpack. I was a bit surprised because I thought SO should be for whatever bag I choose. But I really like my SA. I asked her if that is normal and she goes to ask and said is because in some moment I asked for that specifically so they offer exactly that and no other choice.
I think your SM is trying to be considerate and specifically offer you the choice of these two designs you seem to have requested as PO? I suspect that placing a varied range of designs for SO is also encouraged as it probably reflects better on the store's own profile with Paris. That last is my speculation but seems to be a feeling I get with certain SMs.
 
That’s very strange. Maybe they are trying to cut off resellers where someone takes advantage of the SO opportunity to build a nata etoupe mini Kelly to flip for 4x. Their SO budget is based on bag prices, so it shouldn’t matter to them what you make unless the price point is extremely different (which is why they limit exotic SOs and specifically offer those as such).
I don’t know. I feel it was strange but same time is my first S.O. And not sure all the process. Also is ok because I was interested on that items and maybe they offer because of that. Just maybe if I could choose I would prefer wait that ones in P.O. and something more harder to get for S.O.
 
Yes, you have ordered a verso B25 with Craie Epsom exterior and Gold interior (which will be chèvre) with rose gold hardware; your stitching will default to tonal 99.9999% (usually I'd say 98% but there isn't really a tonal thread for Gold, so you aren't at risk of an artisan decision to give you contrast stitch).
Sounds like an absolutely gorgeous bag, congrats!!
Thank you! Can’t wait :smile:
 
Well… it finally happened! Got offered the chance to create my first SO!!! I was in complete shock.

Verso Mini Kelly in chèvre, Rose Sakura exterior, Gris Perle interior & reverse stitching with palladium hardware.

I’m usually a patient person but this will really test my limits! Truly a very special and memorable experience! Can’t wait for it to arrive!
 
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Thank you, acrowcounted, for directing me to the correct thread for Special Orders.
I read the above SO outline/Q&A, which was so helpful!
I did want to ask a few questions for further clarification, if I may.

Quick backstory: I’m from CA and use a boutique in Vegas as my home store. I’ve been with my SA for about 14 months now & was offered my first quota bag after 9 mths.(B30 Craie rghw)
This past week I inquired via text about Special Orders & just asked her if this is something that I could possibly do at some point. My SA responded with sure if I’m ready she could arrange for me to participate in their next SO at which point she would let me know what is available (colors etc) & what I’d like to do. She also said that if I can “think of it before it happens, it would be easier.” No idea what that means lol
I did text back to try & seek further clarification but didn’t really get a clear response. I must say that my SAs written English can be a bit difficult for me to understand clearly at times & I didn’t want to keep going back & forth via text & take up more of her time.
She also said that because of the delay their SO event would be open early next year (Jan?). Is that the case for all boutiques?
I guess my question is, is this something that I’d need to go into the boutique to do? Which wouldn’t be a problem but since I’d need to travel to Vegas from CA I was just curious if I’d need to plan for that. Also, are neutral colors typically allowed? My reason for requesting a SO was to try and procure a Kelly (25 or smaller) in a neutral shade or second choice a B25 noir or gold. If it’s only seasonal shades then maybe this may not be the right thing for me to do? I had always assumed we can pick any specs when doing special orders after watching YT videos & such on the process.
Thanks so much in advance.