Hi guys, I wonder if you can help me, with all your wisdom! I've read threads about applying eyeliner on the lower lids (a no-go, I know), but i still haven't got the hang of applying it to the upper lid! I usually either leave a space between my eyelashes and the line, get my eyelashes gunked up with liner if drawing 'right on the lashline' as my magazines say (i have long eyelashes), or when trying to smudge the line slightly (again, as mags tell me) I end up having my entire lid black and sooty. ush: In other words, HELP!!! Anything is greatly appreciated!!!