So I've been wanting a hobo shoulder bag. Does not need to be crossbody, really looking for something that fits nicely under the arm. It should be able to fit over a coat, but not sit too low. Budget at absolute max is $2350, which is the cost of one whose look I like but will probably not get. Less is more, though, on the budget front so similar looks for less are especially welcome. However, I strongly prefer to buy new in this case rather than preloved. But here are 2 that I really like the look of. Notice in both cases the strap is not attached to the body with hardware, but is rather an extension of the body itself.
Givenchy hobo bag

Also this Gucci Aphrodite in Medium, and apologies if 'hobo' is not the correct term for it:

If money were no object, I would have bought the Gucci already, but it is an object, so that's why I'm hesitating. The Givenchy look is great, I think I might even like that one more, and it can stand up on its own which is awesome (Gucci cannot), but there is no true closure, not even a magnetic one like the Gucci; it's just the weight of the padlock. And even worse, there is not even one pocket inside the Givenchy.
There's this much more affordable Rebecca Minkoff that has similar structure, but lacks something. Just looks a little 'meh'.

There's this Dooney, which I like better than the RM, but which still isn't hitting quite right on how the strap relates to the main body; there's still more of a demarcation than I was looking for:

Also, even though I complained about the Givenchy having no true closure, both the RM and the D&B closures look more fiddly than I'd like. Zippers or magnets are my preference, maybe turn locks, but not actual clips things or hooks or something.
I appreciate all suggestions! Thank you!
Givenchy hobo bag

Also this Gucci Aphrodite in Medium, and apologies if 'hobo' is not the correct term for it:

If money were no object, I would have bought the Gucci already, but it is an object, so that's why I'm hesitating. The Givenchy look is great, I think I might even like that one more, and it can stand up on its own which is awesome (Gucci cannot), but there is no true closure, not even a magnetic one like the Gucci; it's just the weight of the padlock. And even worse, there is not even one pocket inside the Givenchy.
There's this much more affordable Rebecca Minkoff that has similar structure, but lacks something. Just looks a little 'meh'.

There's this Dooney, which I like better than the RM, but which still isn't hitting quite right on how the strap relates to the main body; there's still more of a demarcation than I was looking for:

Also, even though I complained about the Givenchy having no true closure, both the RM and the D&B closures look more fiddly than I'd like. Zippers or magnets are my preference, maybe turn locks, but not actual clips things or hooks or something.
I appreciate all suggestions! Thank you!