the SA said that she liked the potiron better, it had more structure than the clemance, which is very squishy and falls in the bigger size. since she's worked with me before and i'm doing this sight unseen, is the gold similar to the potiron. she said it was more pumpkin colored.
I have a 35 BJ Clemence and it doesn't flop over - it stands upright, but the overall look is still casual. I personally love the slouchiness in this bag since the color lends itself to a more fun look, but it's an individual preference. I'd go for that one in a heartbeat though - it's one of my favorite bags.