I just typed a very long post only to disappear when I hit 'submit'.
Anyway, I've been lurker here for awhile now but this is my first time posting and it's sad that is has to be about this. I would just like to put a timeline of what happened with a Gucci bag I recently sold on ebay.
January 22: Sold the Gucci bag through a best offer.
January 23: Buyer said he will pay the next day.
January 24 - 28: No payment so I asked why.
January 26: Buyer said he sent money order last Jan 24. Never got it.
January 29:
February 1: I told the buyer no money order received.
February 1: Buyer said he paid for the post office to do a trace and said post office won't refund until they find out if the MO was really cashed or not.
February 1: I asked the buyer to fax over the copies of the money order stub and receipt just to give me a peace of mind. Buyer said he doesn't have a fax machine but will mail the receipts asap and will fax them when he's at work but he's out sick that day.
February 2-4: Emails again about getting those receipts.
February 4-11: Silence.
February 11: I filed for a NPB dispute. Did not hear anything for 6 days until the seventh day, when I could have just closed the dispute and leave him a negative feedback.
February 18: Here's from the dispute console thread:
BUYERFeb-18-08 at 06:43:03 PST
I am so sorry you have not heard from me. I was out of Town on a family emergency. My grandmother had a severe stroke and I had to be at the hospital and then find a nursing home for her to go to. I was not near a computer so I am so sorry for the delay. The money order was not cashed and I am going to pick up the money today. Please let me know your PayPal address and I will PayPal you today.Again I am so sorry for the inconvience and the lack of communication on my part.
MEFeb-18-08 at 10:10:59 PST
You should be able to find my paypal address on your MyEbay. Just click on the link to pay for the item. [email protected].
BUYER Feb-18-08 at 11:26:08 PST You do not have to be so nasty. I just wanted to get this deal closed and am sorry about what happenedin my family. A little kindness goes a long way my dear
MEFeb-18-08 at 17:03:45 PST Nasty? I was just being matter-of-factly. That is exactly where you find the email address. If anyoneasked me that question, I would have answered the same way. And I added my email address just in case you still can't find it. However, for someone who has had over 200 FB's and recently purchasedan item from Fashionphile, I assumed it won't be difficult for you to find the link. Kindness does go a long way. In fact, it takes awhile to bear the fruit of patience - 4 days short of 1 month.
BUYERFeb-19-08 at 06:53:00 PST Your attitute is making me nervous and I just hope this bag is authentic like you state and not a fake.
ME Feb-19-08 at 08:43:25 PST I have been nothing but patient with you. You never really did send the MO receipt when I asked you for it which leads me to suspect that there was no MO sent in the first place. After almost a monthof waiting, you still haven't paid. You recently purchased an item & sold and shipped a bunch of items when you're supposedly out of town taking care of someone. You know my item is authentic and I will go to court if I have to to prove that it is.
ME Feb-19-08 at 09:10:55 PST You also said yesterday that you know the MO you supposedly sent wasn't cashed and that you would payme last night through Paypal and you still didn't. I think I waited enough for you. If you had buyer'sremorse, I wish you would just say so.
BUYER Feb-19-08 at 10:50:16 PST
I have been taken on Ebay and really want your bag for my wife. She has wanted this bag for a long time. Please let me know you stand behind authenticity. I receintly received a fake bag from anotherseller and it makes me uneasy. Just let me know and I will pay you. Again sorry for all of the craziness.
ME Feb-19-08 at 10:53:39 PST
You mailed the money order receipt? When? I haven't received that as well. Don't you think that if our positions were reversed, you would think it's a little bit weird that everything you mailed to me got lost in the mail? I asked that that receipt be faxed to me as well to avoid anymore lost mailissues. You, as a powerseller with a good feedback really is the only reason why I'm still communicatingwith you. I'd like to believe that not everyone on ebay is a scammer.
ME Feb-19-08 at 11:09:30 PST
I agree, everything has been crazy with this transaction at this point. I stand behind authenticity,I stated that on my auction. I have the receipt and the business card of the SA who sold this to me from Gucci. I am shipping this bag tagged per stories of sellers who shipped an authentic bag only to receive a fake bag after the buyer returns it, saying it's fake.
ME Feb-19-08 at 11:14:31 PST
And just to let you know, I was grateful to see your FB score and was relieved to know I have someoneknowledgeable with designer items winning my auction. I know you know that you were looking at an authentic item before you decided to place your bid. I'm sure you did your homework.
This buyer bought an item from Fashionphile and paid for it (he got a positive FB for it) around this time. So I'm not sure about the paypal account that cannot be accessed by his assistants.
I'm really worried that this buyer would pay just to avoid a NPB strike against him but will then return the item and claim it is fake.
I told him I'm tagging my bag (just in case he does a bait-and-switch) and that I have the receipt and business card of the SA who sold this to me. I'm about to refer him to this forum as well for authentication but then again, shouldn't he have done BEFORE he placed that offer? I know he knows it's authentic because he's been buying and selling LV's and other designer bags. I think he would just pay to avoid the NPB strike and then cry "fake" so he can get his money back.
I'm so depressed.
Anyway, I've been lurker here for awhile now but this is my first time posting and it's sad that is has to be about this. I would just like to put a timeline of what happened with a Gucci bag I recently sold on ebay.
January 22: Sold the Gucci bag through a best offer.
January 23: Buyer said he will pay the next day.
January 24 - 28: No payment so I asked why.
January 26: Buyer said he sent money order last Jan 24. Never got it.
January 29:
Email from buyer: "Hi! I just got back from seeing if I can cancel the money order and they will not let me being it has not even been a week. They told me I can cancel it Friday. If you can let me know you received this message being we have been having problems with the email. Let me know Friday if the money order arrives or not so I can get you paid and stop payment on it.."
February 1: I told the buyer no money order received.
February 1: Buyer said he paid for the post office to do a trace and said post office won't refund until they find out if the MO was really cashed or not.
February 1: I asked the buyer to fax over the copies of the money order stub and receipt just to give me a peace of mind. Buyer said he doesn't have a fax machine but will mail the receipts asap and will fax them when he's at work but he's out sick that day.
February 2-4: Emails again about getting those receipts.
February 4-11: Silence.
February 11: I filed for a NPB dispute. Did not hear anything for 6 days until the seventh day, when I could have just closed the dispute and leave him a negative feedback.
February 18: Here's from the dispute console thread:
BUYERFeb-18-08 at 06:43:03 PST
I am so sorry you have not heard from me. I was out of Town on a family emergency. My grandmother had a severe stroke and I had to be at the hospital and then find a nursing home for her to go to. I was not near a computer so I am so sorry for the delay. The money order was not cashed and I am going to pick up the money today. Please let me know your PayPal address and I will PayPal you today.Again I am so sorry for the inconvience and the lack of communication on my part.
MEFeb-18-08 at 10:10:59 PST
You should be able to find my paypal address on your MyEbay. Just click on the link to pay for the item. [email protected].
BUYER Feb-18-08 at 11:26:08 PST You do not have to be so nasty. I just wanted to get this deal closed and am sorry about what happenedin my family. A little kindness goes a long way my dear
MEFeb-18-08 at 17:03:45 PST Nasty? I was just being matter-of-factly. That is exactly where you find the email address. If anyoneasked me that question, I would have answered the same way. And I added my email address just in case you still can't find it. However, for someone who has had over 200 FB's and recently purchasedan item from Fashionphile, I assumed it won't be difficult for you to find the link. Kindness does go a long way. In fact, it takes awhile to bear the fruit of patience - 4 days short of 1 month.
BUYERFeb-19-08 at 06:53:00 PST Your attitute is making me nervous and I just hope this bag is authentic like you state and not a fake.
ME Feb-19-08 at 08:43:25 PST I have been nothing but patient with you. You never really did send the MO receipt when I asked you for it which leads me to suspect that there was no MO sent in the first place. After almost a monthof waiting, you still haven't paid. You recently purchased an item & sold and shipped a bunch of items when you're supposedly out of town taking care of someone. You know my item is authentic and I will go to court if I have to to prove that it is.
ME Feb-19-08 at 09:10:55 PST You also said yesterday that you know the MO you supposedly sent wasn't cashed and that you would payme last night through Paypal and you still didn't. I think I waited enough for you. If you had buyer'sremorse, I wish you would just say so.
BUYER Feb-19-08 at 10:50:16 PST
I have been taken on Ebay and really want your bag for my wife. She has wanted this bag for a long time. Please let me know you stand behind authenticity. I receintly received a fake bag from anotherseller and it makes me uneasy. Just let me know and I will pay you. Again sorry for all of the craziness.
ME Feb-19-08 at 10:53:39 PST
You mailed the money order receipt? When? I haven't received that as well. Don't you think that if our positions were reversed, you would think it's a little bit weird that everything you mailed to me got lost in the mail? I asked that that receipt be faxed to me as well to avoid anymore lost mailissues. You, as a powerseller with a good feedback really is the only reason why I'm still communicatingwith you. I'd like to believe that not everyone on ebay is a scammer.
ME Feb-19-08 at 11:09:30 PST
I agree, everything has been crazy with this transaction at this point. I stand behind authenticity,I stated that on my auction. I have the receipt and the business card of the SA who sold this to me from Gucci. I am shipping this bag tagged per stories of sellers who shipped an authentic bag only to receive a fake bag after the buyer returns it, saying it's fake.
ME Feb-19-08 at 11:14:31 PST
And just to let you know, I was grateful to see your FB score and was relieved to know I have someoneknowledgeable with designer items winning my auction. I know you know that you were looking at an authentic item before you decided to place your bid. I'm sure you did your homework.
This buyer bought an item from Fashionphile and paid for it (he got a positive FB for it) around this time. So I'm not sure about the paypal account that cannot be accessed by his assistants.
I'm really worried that this buyer would pay just to avoid a NPB strike against him but will then return the item and claim it is fake.
I told him I'm tagging my bag (just in case he does a bait-and-switch) and that I have the receipt and business card of the SA who sold this to me. I'm about to refer him to this forum as well for authentication but then again, shouldn't he have done BEFORE he placed that offer? I know he knows it's authentic because he's been buying and selling LV's and other designer bags. I think he would just pay to avoid the NPB strike and then cry "fake" so he can get his money back.
I'm so depressed.
