Hedi Slimane at Gucci?

Hedi at Gucci? For Good or bad?


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Are you keeping up with the rumours, Hedi Slimane is apparently in the running for Gucci CD. I didn't even know the position was open :biggrin:


I think the House would be a good match but I don't quite believe Gucci/Kering would do it. Sabato de Sarno has only been with Gucci eighteen months and the huge rebrand has cost a fortune. Would Kering give-up on their new vision so soon? Although they got rid of Alessandra Facchinetti after twelve months (2004-05).
 
Hmm, it would be interesting. I do like what Heidi did at Celine and YSL or I guess SL lol.
But I agree, Sabato was a huge investment and it does feel a little painful to give up and start over with a new creative director.

While I do think that Alessandro made Gucci iconic, fun, and flamboyant, it never catered to my personal tastes.
I do like some of Sabato's pieces but I don't think I'd be mad if Heidi took over given that he is also on the conservative side (based on his previous positions).

Though with the economic climate, I'm not sure if they just need to stick it out with Sabato until the economy improvements, or take the risk of throwing out their initial investment with Sabato and potentially spending even more money with Heidi.

Seeing how Burberry had their huge investment with Daniel Lee and the outcome of that and their CEO admitting that they may have gone too fast and too hard with the re-branding, they seem to be sticking with Daniel Lee atm but doing other things like dropping prices. (Btw, there were a ton of things at the Burberry private sale from his initial collections and I saw there was a lot at the outlets and with crazy discounts at places like Bloomingdales and Nordstrom.)

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While I would be happy to see TF back at Gucci, I’m really liking De Sarno work and I hope he stays.
I recognize AM is a genius but most of his works were a bit too loud for everyday wearing, and he tends to overdo ‘70s and early ‘80s in his style, and he is proposing all the same at Valentino now.
 
Last year '24, I 'only' bought a silk dress (SS24?) a pair of boots in the private sale, a pair of AW24 shoes and two necklaces. It's actually become quite hard for me to find something truly lust worthy - although I did consider the Ancora red leather shorts. There's a kind of fragmentation and samey-samey in de Sarno's work once off the catwalk. Just sticking a few crystals of something doesn't do it for me. I can see they just reissued what sold last season (witness the Ancora-red leather shorts turning into plain suede this) and I don't mind that, but I would like to see a vision too, I don't think they need to be quite so obvious about it.

I am seeing Tom Ford's work referenced quite a lot by de Sarno (I've been looking through Gucci RTW archives). I would just like to see more versatile pieces rather than coords (despite looking at a shirt/skirt combo as a possible). What all of the CDs until de Sarno bought to Gucci was a very realistic 'mosaic', where everything seemed to work together (even AM with his 'vintage' aesthetic). TF's sexy silk-satin blouses worked with all of the velvets, leathers, mohair on the same catwalk 1995 (also where de Sarno gets his chartreuse from). With de Sarno a chartreuse sheer silk, pissy-bow blouse (very Frida G. 2001 and Alessandro Aichele AW16 too) goes with only one or possibly two pieces, that's it, and then there's a whole other story in a pastel or denim etc. Gucci is trying to be all things to all possible clients. I'd like to see some leadership from the creative side.
 
While I would be happy to see TF back at Gucci, I’m really liking De Sarno work and I hope he stays.
I recognize AM is a genius but most of his works were a bit too loud for everyday wearing, and he tends to overdo ‘70s and early ‘80s in his style, and he is proposing all the same at Valentino now.

I do hope you re right. Maybe it's me that's a bit jaded.

What I liked about Alessandro Michele were his references and edginess, even though it looked vintage, I think for young people it may have looked original and arty after so much match-matchy, high heels, polish and shine. What I liked about TF and FG were their respective refs, even if they were just thinking about Italy, the nature and/or Gucci's heyday in the '70s.

What do you see as refs for de Sarno besides Gucci archives. Even if he just stuck to modernism, cleanse the palette. What's with the Prada-ing of Gucci. Gucci should be bold, but not square (IMHO).
 
Hmm, it would be interesting. I do like what Heidi did at Celine and YSL or I guess SL lol.
But I agree, Sabato was a huge investment and it does feel a little painful to give up and start over with a new creative director.

While I do think that Alessandro made Gucci iconic, fun, and flamboyant, it never catered to my personal tastes.
I do like some of Sabato's pieces but I don't think I'd be mad if Heidi took over given that he is also on the conservative side (based on his previous positions).

Though with the economic climate, I'm not sure if they just need to stick it out with Sabato until the economy improvements, or take the risk of throwing out their initial investment with Sabato and potentially spending even more money with Heidi.

Seeing how Burberry had their huge investment with Daniel Lee and the outcome of that and their CEO admitting that they may have gone too fast and too hard with the re-branding, they seem to be sticking with Daniel Lee atm but doing other things like dropping prices. (Btw, there were a ton of things at the Burberry private sale from his initial collections and I saw there was a lot at the outlets and with crazy discounts at places like Bloomingdales and Nordstrom.)

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Yes, I agree, from a business POV, it's both crazy to ditch de Sarno (and spend more promoting another CD's rebrand) but also can they afford not to with Gucci being the cash cow and the reputation maker for Kering?

I don't think it will be HS after all the 'divorce' tussles. I don't think either HS or Kering want to 'marry' again :biggrin:
 
In Another Shock to Fashion, Gucci’s Designer Is Leaving Sabato De Sarno’s departure adds to the industry turmoil.

By Vanessa Friedman
Feb. 6, 2025Updated 9:54 a.m. ET

On Thursday, just as the fashion world was gathering in New York for its ready-to-wear shows, Gucci added yet more uncertainty to an already tumultuous industry by announcing that the designer Sabato De Sarno was leaving. He had been at Gucci only two years and was scheduled to unveil his spring collection in Milan on Feb. 25. No successor was named, and the collection would be, the brand said in the announcement, designed by the studio.

The news comes only five days before Kering, the parent company of Gucci as well as Balenciaga, Saint Laurent and McQueen, announces its 2024 annual results. In October, Kering reported that Gucci’s third-quarter sales fell 26 percent in 2024, the worst results in its stable of fashion houses and among the worst in the industry. Presumably the full-year numbers will follow the same trend — a repudiation of recent industry wisdom that “quiet luxury” was the answer to consumer anxiety.

“The writing was on the wall,” Luca Solca, a luxury analyst at Bernstein, said in an email. “The connection between the Gucci DNA and Sabato’s aesthetics was not really there. A brand cannot change into anything it likes, the same as a zebra cannot turn into a lion and vice versa.”

Mr. De Sarno was brought on with much excitement (and his own mini-documentary) in 2023 to reinvent Gucci as an Hermès-like luxury brand focused on timeless offerings that transcend fashion cycles. Gucci’s previous designer, Alessandro Michele, had transformed its fortunes by remaking the label as a more-is-more home for fashion geeks and freaks rather than a gilded leather go-to for the nouveau riche jet set, but sales had begun to plateau.

Mr. De Sarno, who had previously been the design director at Valentino, stripped away the excess of the Michele era and introduced a new color, Ancora red, but he never managed to give Gucci a new identity. His work, which seemed tepid, was tepidly received.

In a news release, Francesca Bellettini, Kering’s deputy chief executive in charge of brand development, said (somewhat tepidly), “I sincerely thank Sabato for his loyalty and professionalism.”

Gucci’s decision to part ways with Mr. De Sarno, the first major move of Stefano Cantino, its new chief executive, comes at a time when overall luxury spending has fallen in the wake of global economic and political uncertainty. That decline has led to an unprecedented number of designer changes, as brand managers try to reignite consumer excitement by offering more and more new stuff.

Mr. De Sarno’s departure after such a short tenure also reflects the perhaps unrealistic expectations of owners and investors when it comes to fashion turnarounds. Though it is possible for a designer with a crystal clear sense of the general mood to make over a brand seemingly overnight, it is rare.

Nevertheless, 10 new designers will make their debuts at familiar fashion houses this year, including Calvin Klein, Chanel, Tom Ford, Givenchy and Bottega Veneta, another Kering brand. Fendi has yet to name a new creative director, while speculation continues to roil the fashion world (which loves nothing more than a bit of gossip on the front row) that Dior is about to change its creative team.

The Gucci announcement will further fuel the guessing games, which have already focused on Hedi Slimane, the former designer of Celine.
 
I think it goes without saying Tom Ford iconic but I also really liked Alessandro Michele and frankly have been a bit bored with the brand since his departure.
Same, I used to buy Gucci in Tom Ford era but I was younger and slimmer then 😢
Michele really worked for me and having not puchased Gucci rtw for years I started buying it again.
I LOVE my Michele Gucci pieces but since De Sarno took over I've not wanted anything-it all looks very bland and just..dull.
I keep checking the boutique in the hope I'll find something..anything exciting to purchase but...NO.
 
Same, I used to buy Gucci in Tom Ford era but I was younger and slimmer then 😢
Michele really worked for me and having not puchased Gucci rtw for years I started buying it again.
I LOVE my Michele Gucci pieces but since De Sarno took over I've not wanted anything-it all looks very bland and just..dull.
I keep checking the boutique in the hope I'll find something..anything exciting to purchase but...NO.

I kept checking too. Actually, the prices have also been a put-off - but that's across the luxury board (although I have bought at SLP). When sales were down, luxury parent companies put up prices to work off the profit margins to ease profit loss. That's had a huge knock-on effect. No one likes being taken for a 'mug'.

Last year I only bought the 'outgoing' pieces from Michele's last RTW collections. That was because I went to a wedding (rare these days for me). The horsetit loafers were new season, as well as a silver necklace I needed to work with a suit. The dog collar was carried over from Michele too. That's quite telling. Only 2 out of 4 items were really under Sabato.

I was told Sabato chose the art in the new Bond St store. I was NOT impressed, as dull as his clothes. That too made me lose confidence in his artistry and taste.
 
One friend bet me £5 Galliano

Another bet me £5 J W Anderson

I could make or lose £10.

At least we know it's not Daniel Lee:biggrin: (gone to Jill Sander)

I think whoever will already be employed by Kering
 
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