I"m guessing she'll wait to the last minute to respond to the case. She should have disclosed all flaws in her listing on ebay the fact that she cropped the pic to make the flaws unknown is shady. Theirs nothing wrong with buying stuff from NM last call or Nordie rack and reselling it but they should note any and every flaw. I'm sure the marks on the bottom of the shoe wouldn't bother most people but it could bother some are not a small thing that she could have missed it's very noticeable. The email she sent you was very childish and rude I wouldn't waste any time replying too it and keep all contact threw the paypal since it wasn't a ebay transaction. I'm guessing she knows she's in the wrong that's why she's trying to guilt you I think she's trying to make you feel bad in hopes you'll drop the case so she won't have to refund your money. Stick to your guns and get your money back.
There have been threads on this subject before. Deeply discounted items are often marked in some permanent fashion to prevent a return. There is a variety of ways of doing this but the end result is the same - it cannot be removed or cut off like a price tag.
Pretty much everybody agrees that this should be disclosed by the seller. I think the OP is well within her rights not to be happy and to file a claim. It is particularly annoying that the seller "hid" the markings by the way she photographed the shoes. And if something is described as NIB, the buyer shouldn't have to ask for photos of the soles. NIB assumes pristine soles.
OP, she was sneaky about the way she listed the item. Don't let her make you feel badly about filing a claim.
Perhaps the seller has put her items on a vacation hold until just after Christmas. I know of several sellers who have shut down their stores for now.
Exactly.... BNIB means brand new! in box!! with no markings/stickers anywhere
on the shoe.. insole or sole....
Just because the shoes had markings on the bottom doesn't mean that they weren't "BNIB."I am paying for the nice sueded leather that Manolo uses on his bottoms. That is not BNIB. I would NEVER sell shoes like that and list as such.
I purchased a pair of flats from a seller. I paid her direct to paypal . In her listing and pics, there is no mention of the bottom of the shoes being marked up. They were listed BNIB and all pics looked great .
I got the shoes and there are stickers and red , silver and black markers on the leather sole. On both shoes. Permanate marker.
There is one pic of bottom of the shoe the listing and she cropped it to not show the damage to the shoe.
I have emailed her and she says no one complains about the damage to the shoes and are happy. I am surprised at this. But ok.
I called around a few cobblers and to put leather soles on these shoes, it would be $40 and up. She had ignored me and I made a claim in paypal. I just want the shoes as I had expected them to be.
She then sent me an email saying I am a horrible person and she is a single mom and this is ruining her Holidays. She is a shoe reseller. This is not from her personal collection. She told me she got this from a NM last call and they marked them up. This was not mentioned in the listing at all. I would of never purchsed the shoes in this condition. I wish this info was disclosed before purchase.
Well , she is ignoring the claim on paypal and emailing me privately and asking me to wait, this is the holidays, single mom etc.
She has great feedback.
Is what I am asking for insane . I feel mislead in my purchase.
Just because the shoes had markings on the bottom doesn't mean that they weren't "BNIB."
"Brand new in box" means that they shoes haven't ever been used or worn (and there seems to be no indication that they were used) and that they are in their box (which it seems they were).
So being described as BNIB is accurate.
I'm not defending a seller who didn't show or mention permanent marks on the soles. But the marks aren't a "defect" nor do they make the shoes anything other than "new."
I'm with Poopsie on this one. I walk on the soles of shoes and chances are, before long the writing and stickers will have been replaced by the scuffing of the city streets so to me, the soles aren't a huge deal and don't constitute damage.
The permanent nature of the markings does constitute non-disclosure, though.
Just because the shoes had markings on the bottom doesn't mean that they weren't "BNIB."
"Brand new in box" means that they shoes haven't ever been used or worn (and there seems to be no indication that they were used) and that they are in their box (which it seems they were).
So being described as BNIB is accurate.
I'm not defending a seller who didn't show or mention permanent marks on the soles. But the marks aren't a "defect" nor do they make the shoes anything other than "new."
I'm with Poopsie on this one. I walk on the soles of shoes and chances are, before long the writing and stickers will have been replaced by the scuffing of the city streets so to me, the soles aren't a huge deal and don't constitute damage.
The permanent nature of the markings does constitute non-disclosure, though.
Just because the shoes had markings on the bottom doesn't mean that they weren't "BNIB."
"Brand new in box" means that they shoes haven't ever been used or worn (and there seems to be no indication that they were used) and that they are in their box (which it seems they were).
So being described as BNIB is accurate.
I'm not defending a seller who didn't show or mention permanent marks on the soles. But the marks aren't a "defect" nor do they make the shoes anything other than "new."
I'm with Poopsie on this one. I walk on the soles of shoes and chances are, before long the writing and stickers will have been replaced by the scuffing of the city streets so to me, the soles aren't a huge deal and don't constitute damage.
The permanent nature of the markings does constitute non-disclosure, though.
To me BNIB means how I would expect it to come from Manolo himself. No defects, markings , stickers, etc. These are not brand new in box. They are marked up new shoes in box.