You are right. I went to the sold section and sure enough, there it was. A carina for less than retail. Now the only way that person can do that would be if they are a merchant getting them for merchant pricing, which IF does not allow and they will be flushed out, or they work at a department store where they get 20-30% discount. In which case I am going to add them to my favorites and keep an eye on what they are selling. They have a Kooba sienna for several hundred dollars les than retail.