Not sure what that means? Anyway, I tried to buy one from them before, pay less than their huge markup and their reply was, "We paid more than that for the bag". I thought, well that is either sad or dumb. I believe it when an individual may have paid alot for a bag..but a business that does it to make $$ ? nah...I don't believe that answer for a minute. My offer was only about 15% below retail!