I was never an LV fan coz I thought that there was just to many fakes out there, till I saw my friends mom with a very old alma the patina was very dark brown but looked so beautiful! So I checked the site and fell inlove with the popincourt haut. My DH who is clueless with purses tried to surprise me with it but got it from Sara's purse or somtin like that... when he gave it to me I knew right away that it was a fake did not know how to tell him at first but I had to plus he also doesn't like anything fake. He was so upset with the site. The next day he took me to an LV store, but instead of the PH I got the Pap30. I will still get the PH probably when my 1 & 2 yr old girls are older, when keeping the vachetta clean wont be impossible. I love this forum so much! thanks ladies!