EXPOSING THE DARK TRUTH OF BRIAN THE TRANSLATOR - PLASTIC SURGERY NIGHTMARE AT DEESSE

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Im just curious to see how many of these freelance translators posted on here are affiliated with hospitals or not. Because it seems like hospitals that dont have their own in house translators are using the ones posted here. I feel like the pool is very small and that the hospitals could be giving them incentives to talk us into doing our surgeries with them.
 
I would like to add that I had a somewhat similar experience with Brian. It was my first time to Korea and first time doing plastic surgery, I was quite naive looking back, but thought by hiring Brian I would be somewhat protected. In general I have low expectations so at the time I didn’t have concerns with his service, but looking back now I realise it is a big issue that he wasn’t turning up to agreed post op appointments, he didn’t attend the surgery to ensure no shadow doctor. This is a big issue as this is one of his selling points, especially around the ensuring no shadow doctor. I subsequently returned to Korea after a few months to have neck Lift and neck lipo and additional fat grafting to the eyes, as the 1st time I had neck lipo and fat grafting done it didn’t produce the results I was expecting. The 2nd time around I did my consults solo and realised how ripped off I was. This was quite upsetting as Brian would have know this but didn’t say anything or try to make the price a more reasonable figure. For example, the hospital I did primary rhino with was 10million won but probably should have been no more than 5million, and they quote fat grafting at 4 million won. On my 2nd visit I realised through my consults that 4 million for fat grafting is way overpriced, I ended up paying only 500,000 won for my eyes fat grafting on 2nd visit. I feel upset now as I thought I was hiring and paying Brian to safe guard me, but turns out he is just another cog in the industry machine trying to extract as much $ from foreigners. He also gave me the sell on Deesse, and also said how he was taking his GF there for lip surgery.
I'm so sorry to hear about your negative experience @jupiter2016. The feeling of being duped is bad enough as it is, not to mention being left with subpar results that'll result in more revision surgery and money spent. Thank you for sharing your story, though. The more people who out this man for who he is really is, the better.
 
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Hello everyone, you may know me from my past review I did with Braun and having Brian as my translator. I am writing this review in order to help and possibly stop this situation from ever reoccurring ever again to anyone else as what I have endured in my recent trip was unbelievably unethical and traumatizing. Please understand that this is not a review I created in efforts to bash anyone but to give a fair review of my own personal experience. Please do with this information as you will and I am only able to give my experience as a warning. I was also never in anyway previously ever affiliated with Brian or Braun in any shape or form. I previously had an outstanding experience with them so when I was asked about my experience I felt like I could genuinely recommend Brian to people because I believed his services were truly unmatched in terms of a plastic surgery “guide”. When I previously used his services he was just starting out his personal business as a freelance medical tourism guide, but after he gained more popularity I’ve found out that his moral compass had quickly changed and his main objective was no longer to have the best interest for his clients- but purely for greed and money. It is truly frightening how much he has changed and it has been another eye opening experience of how quickly some people can throw away their ethics and morals in exchange for just money. I would also disclose that I was given many warnings about using Brian and his unethical character by previous unhappy clients but I chose to ignore these warnings as I believed my interactions with him were genuine and he was fighting hard to disprove his shady reputation. I really wanted to give him a chance after seeing how dedicated he was to being a medical guide while chatting online with him and after meeting him in real life. Though I didn't believe all the stories he tried to sell me he was adamant that his "competitors" and hospitals were out to destroy his character because they didn't like the business model he was trying to promote of "being an honest and transparent translator dedicated to fighting for his clients and exposing bad clinic practices. I had my reservations but after a couple of my friends had good experiences with him I decided to hire him. Again my first experience with him in Korea was great, though my recent one not so much.



I would like to start off by starting straight to the point. It has come to my attention from many of Brian’s previous clients and myself that Brian is leveraging his position as a guide to coerce his clients to go to specific hospitals. He would knowingly recommend Deesse to me when there were multiple cases of unhappy and botched clients at this hospital before me. During my first trip with Brian he was very strict with not recommending or giving opinions on clinics. After my second experience he was extremely persuasive in recommending me to Deesse. So much so that he had persuaded me to not go to my first choice (Braun) by repeatedly telling me that Braun is not good for eyebrow lifts. He would repeatedly remind me that and tell me his client got botched at Braun for eyebrow lifts. In my position my main concern were my uneven eyebrows. For years I was SO SELF CONSCIOUS of their unevenness so I told Brian “I am willing to go to the best dr for eye brow lift regardless of the price and if I go under and I wake up and I still have uneven eyebrows I will be so depressed.” I’ll elaborate on this point later on, but essentially during my consult with Braun, before and after he was insistent on me not going to Braun and go to Deesse instead. I do have to point out that my first consult at Braun during my trip my consult felt very rushed because they were running late on surgery. Of course that left a bad feeling for me and he really leveraged that to his advantage. I immediately regretted not going to Braun during my one year post op appointment near the end of my trip as I saw all the people in the waiting room and even with their different levels of swelling I felt the results looked like what I was looking for. Brian was extremely persuasive with his glowing testimonials of Deesse. I knew of a lot of friends who went to Deese personally and I was always so impressed by their lip augmentation work. I unfortunately made the stupid assumption that because they were great with lips they’d be great with other surgeries. When Brian told me that their Dr Kim Jin Hyung was an excellent doctor gate kept by the local Koreans I made the mistake of trusting him. I really do regret this lapse of judgement as I had gained a lot of trust for Brian after my amazing experience at Braun. I also recommended a lot of my friends to Brian who used his services around the same time frame I did and they also had the same stellar experience. Little did I know that after he gained more popularity people’s experiences and opinions of him had dramatically changed.



I had a consultation with Dr Kim Jin Hyung and he sounded extremely knowledgeable and professional. He was giving me informative answers and really catered my consultation to my specific case. He made the promise that my eyebrow asymmetry would be fixed by atleast 70%. I remember asking for pictures and they never showed me any but Brian was relentless on his recommendation. I would also like to point out that I paid a very high price. A LOT higher than most other clinics. I also paid A LOT for an unsatisfactory tipplasty as well. In my head I really thought that I am paying for a special premium. Brian was only able to get me a 1000$ discount as well. The entire time he made it sound like he was moving mountains to make this discount possible. I would also like to point out that during my entire plastic surgery journey this time around, Brian was pretty much not present. He did not do much research at all, he did not check on me post-surgery, he only showed up to two appointments. I never thought of it as a big deal as I would always remind myself that he is extremely busy now and honestly, I understood and I didn’t think a big deal of it. One appointment he came and watched as I got my stitches removed it was quite annoying to be honest… he kind of just stood there and watched as the nurse removed mucus out of my nose while he put on an act of looking present. He was only there for 2 minutes because he was there with another client who was also getting surgery at Deese. The next time he showed up was when I was upset about my experience and wanted to consult with the doctor about what happened and also get a breast augmentation consult. I expected him to advocate for me, but he didn’t at all. (I’ll get into this later, but I soon realized he did the exact same thing to another friend of mine).



I would also like to point out that I left my phone in his car after my surgery, and he didn’t get it back to me for 3 days. I didn’t make a deal out of it because he made it seem like he was very busy the entire 3 days juggling work and clients. But when I asked him what he did that weekend he said, “I was too lazy to work so I stayed home and did nothing.” He immediately realized what he said and his body language tensed. A reoccurring theme that I noticed with him is that he really overestimated his cleverness. I cannot imagine how careless he is of his own clients when his returning client whom he repeatedly called his “younger sister” is in a foreign country, recovering from surgery with no phone for 3 days. I was not far away from him either. I literally stayed above Gangnam station at the officetels there. I literally said I could pick it up from him and he never got back to me.



So back to the point of my surgery results. My eyebrow lift made absolutely no difference. I was devastated. I paid a premium to ensure I’d have good results, and I did not. I was guaranteed atleast 70% difference. Even my tipplasty I am always reminded of how much I hate it every time I look at the mirror. I showed him the style I wanted and the style he delivered was not what I wanted at all. I told Brian and he did nothing. He did not bring this up to the doctor. He only spoke with the consultant, and I was very annoyed that he was gaslighting me the whole time saying my eyebrow results were great. He even gaslit me about my nose too. He was completely on the hospitals side and would not advocate for me at all. I felt so unheard and so unvalidated but being in my vulnerable state I was desperate to grasp onto the idea that I was being unfair. Before my next point I also need to point out that I signed a contract that said if I was unhappy with my results I can get a revision for free within one year. I even asked the Doctor what his thoughts on a revision would be during my last appointment and he said it won’t be possible for atleast 5 years. So my contract was void. I told Brian about this later. I told him I hate my results, even seeing my before and after picture I was filled with so much disappointment and sadness because I saw no difference in my eyebrows and HATED my nose. He had the audacity to say, “I apologize on behalf of the doctor but let's see what we can get done for next time.” No, I don’t want to figure this out for next time when Brian did absolutely nothing for me THIS time. I don’t need his apology it means nothing to me. The doctor and Brian even just suggested to do botox to fix my asymmetry. Well I would’ve appreciated just getting botox before this whole trainwreck. I hired Brian and paid him money to advocate and look after my best interest. But he only cared about his money (+ unconfirmed but likely commission he was receiving from Deesse) and his relationship with the hospital. Another important piece of info I think was very concerning was that he was telling me he was looking at hospitals to get a free/discounted face lift from, and Deesse was his number one choice. He also told me he is bringing his girlfriend to get her lips done. So he was really just trying his best to cover his own corners and keep his relationship with the hospital.



After speaking to many of his clients we all started to connect the dots. He was bringing all of his clients to have a consult at Deesse. He would hype them up and then he would drop an insanely high price point. When we were expecting him to do his job and haggle he would make excuses and say it’s not possible- and trust me it was possible. Not only that but he would really pressure me after meeting in real life to get a facelift done as well. When I met him in real life he was adamant on selling it. He really made me believe that getting a facelift done immediately was essential and there would be no side effects of getting a facelift done so young asides from getting "addicted to it". It made me feel so stressed and like I couldn’t trust the mirror. After having my post consult meeting with him I was so stressed I didn't speak to him for 3 days. He kept insisting there were no side effects of getting a facelift proactively at my 27 years of age and at the cafe when I voiced why I don't want to he dismissed me and said that people only turn out looking "overdone" when they are older because they use too much filler and spoke with much annoyance. I know that he pressured/sold facelifts not just to me but also another friend of mine which made my blood boil because my 19 year old friend got A FACELIFT at deesse with him alongside her vline the same time as me. 19.SO UNBELIVABLY YOUNG AND IMPRESSIONABLE. But honestly the main point of this is not even about the money. Sure money will always come and go, but the trauma of being unsatisfied and feeling betrayed is extremely difficult to live with. But you know what else is something that one cannot easily overcome? Having a reputation for having bad practices and being a bad character. As I begun to converse more with his previous clients we all begun to realize what was going on. He even said to one of my friends " I can't believe they did this to you I will NEVER EVER recommend Deesse to any of my clients again!" When in reality he's been pushing the hospital non-stop. And because of this I cannot allow these extremely unethical practices to continue. I feel as though I have a part to blame for giving Brian glowing reviews, but if I had known this was what money turned him into, I would’ve never wasted my time. And if there was anyone who had a bad experience after I referred him I deeply, sincerely apologize and this is my karma.



I am going to Lake Como next week and am supposed to get engaged. But literally the past month was just unbearable. I feel like I haven’t been able to breathe fully in so long. I’ve fully immersed myself back into the rabbit hole of counting every calorie, every macro, killing myself at the gym for hours a day, and I know I am relapsing. As if fixating on this will do anything for my situation. I feel so betrayed and shocked. Up until recently I was constantly giving Brian the benefit of the doubt. But after hearing similar stories I realized I was lied to. How can someone be so …. Scary…? I’m not one to usually complain. To be honest I am one to always try to remain positive, but I feel like someone stole something from me. Not just money. I was so wronged in this situation. I am 27 years old, I spent 30,000$ with Brian in less than a year. I really supported his business so much. I would reply back to late messages to refer Brian to everyone who inquired about him. I didn’t miss a single message. I defended him against those who doubted him. I truly wanted his business to do well because I wanted him to enjoy the fruits of his labour. If you’ve read up until now I thank you for listening to my story. I know it’s a lot but thank you for hearing me and giving me a voice. I am just one person among the many people who unfortunately have been victimized. And I am aware of how scary it can be to be vulnerable and share your experience, so I know there are also a lot of other nameless victims I haven’t spoken to. And I’ve also brought up to Brian many times how I felt uncomfortable after hearing negative opinions about him and I would ask him to explain himself. He really would always find a way to talk himself out of taking any accountability and always paint his clients as unreasonable. I can tell you firsthand that as far as I can say with all the self-reflecting, I’ve done I was not unreasonable. Please do not let him twist this story either and I hope that you can believe my experience and take heed.



And Brian I know you’re reading this and truthfully as much as I’m angry and disappointed I have passed my stage of feeling spiteful. I can genuinely say I did not write all this out of anger. I want to at least make sure someone is doing the right thing by sharing their unfiltered experience. I know you won’t change for the better. You are always showing off about the girls you slept with and your girlfriend like they’re prizes and objects. You speak of your past doing unethical things, deceiving people, working with gang members like it’s a flex. To be honest when hearing your stories thinking of your actions as accomplishments, I pitied you but laughed along for you to save you from embarrassment. By always bragging about your “accomplishments” and how sly and smart you are you were actually just telling on yourself truthfully.If you want to push this further go ahead. I will push back and I am not afraid to push harder and you will understand you have messed with the wrong person. I hope you take this as a lesson that your actions will have consequences and eventually you will have to take accountability. Your current situation is an accumulative sum of your actions. You repeatedly being in this situation is a reflection of who you are as a person. I have nothing more to say. Goodluck.







TLDR: My experience with Brian, the once-trusted plastic surgery guide, turned into a nightmare. He manipulated me into choosing a questionable hospital, Deesse, despite my reservations. The surgeon, Dr. Kim Jin Hyung, promised to fix my eyebrow asymmetry but failed to deliver. Brian's absence throughout the process and his greed for money were evident. Don't fall victim to this unethical and money-driven duo.

**This review is not meant to bash anyone but to shed light on the dark truth I've discovered. I must warn you all and offer my own experience as a cautionary tale.


Let's cut to the chase. Many of you may remember my previous review, where I praised Braun and my translator, Brian. I genuinely believed he had his clients' best interests at heart. However, as his popularity grew, he became sloppy and his lack of a moral compass became evident. The shift was alarming.

Here's the scoop: Brian, abusing his position as a guide, manipulates clients into going to specific hospitals, even when there are previous cases of botched procedures and unhappy clients. He swayed me away from my first choice, Braun, by feeding me lies about their incompetence in eyebrow lifts. I fell for it, foolishly believing his recommendations were genuine.

During my trip, Brian's presence was minimal. He neglected his responsibilities, barely researching or checking up on me after surgery. He only showed up for a couple of appointments, putting on a show of being present while his attention was divided amongst other clients. And to top it off, he even kept my phone for three days without a valid reason, despite my close proximity to where he lived. His excuse of being too lazy to return it revealed his carelessness. This recurring theme showcased his overestimation of his own cleverness. Negligence and carelessness at its finest.

But let's talk about the real issue: the results of my surgery. During my consultation with Dr. Kim Jin Hyung at Deesse, he appeared knowledgeable, competent, and professional. He promised to fix my eyebrow asymmetry by at least 70%… My eyebrow lift was an absolute failure. No difference whatsoever. I paid a premium price for guaranteed improvement, but it was all a lie. And my unsatisfactory tipplasty? It's a constant reminder of my disappointment every time I look in the mirror. Despite my complaints, Brian did nothing to address the situation. He gaslit me, disregarded my concerns, and sided with the hospital, all while pretending to care. I felt unheard and betrayed, with no recourse for a revision as promised in the contract.

To make matters worse, the contract promising a free revision if unsatisfied turned out to be worthless. The doctor claimed a revision supposedly wouldn't be possible for at least five years, rendering my contract null and void. Brian completely failed to advocate for me and explore the possibility of revision with the clinic. Brian's response? A feeble apology and empty promises for the future. He had the audacity to suggest using Botox to remedy my eyebrow asymmetry. I didn't want to deal with future solutions when he had failed me in the present. His apologies held no weight, and his disregard for my best interests was apparent.

As I began connecting with other clients of his, a disturbing pattern emerged. Brian was funneling everyone to Deesse, hyping up the hospital, and then hitting them with exorbitant prices. When it came to negotiating, he conveniently found excuses for not securing a better deal, even though it was possible. But that's not all. He pressured me relentlessly to get a facelift, making me question my appearance and causing unnecessary stress. And he did the same to my 19-year-old friend, exploiting her youth and vulnerability. Unbelievable.
The financial aspect is not the only issue here. The trauma of feeling betrayed and dissatisfied is something I can't easily overcome.

Money comes and goes, but the scars of a bad experience linger. I cannot allow these unethical practices to continue unchecked. I apologize to anyone who had a negative experience after my referral. This is my karma, and I take responsibility for it.

Brian's lies and manipulation have shattered my trust in people. I have been through hell and back, unable to enjoy my upcoming wedding engagement trip to Lake Como. Counting every calorie, obsessing over my appearance, and relapsing into unhealthy habits have consumed me. The injustice of this situation cuts deep. I am 27 years old, I spent $30,000 with Brian in less than a year. I invested my trust, supported Brian's business wholeheartedly, and defended him against doubters. I would reply back to late messages to refer Brian to everyone who inquired about him. Never missed a single message. I truly wanted his business to thrive because I felt he deserved to enjoy the fruits of his labour. But this story is about more than just my personal struggles; it's about exposing bad characters / practices and warning others. I am just one amongst many whom Brian has victimized. I’ve vocalized on multiple occasions to Brian how uncomfortable I felt after hearing negative feedback about him from others, and I would ask him to explain himself. He never took any accountability and was quick to demonize the clients - accusing them of being unreasonable. I can tell you firsthand that as far as I can say with all the self-reflecting I’ve done - I was not unreasonable. Please do not let him twist this story either. I hope you will take heed and avoid making the same mistakes. Avoid partnering with him.

To Brian, I know you're reading this. My anger has evolved into a genuine desire for transparency. This isn't a rant fueled by emotion. My intention is to ensure someone takes responsibility by sharing the unfiltered truth. I don't expect you to change for the better. You seem to take pride in bragging about the women you've slept with and treating them as objects. You boast about your past involvement in unethical activities, deceiving people, and associating with gang members as if it's a flex. Frankly, when I heard these stories, I felt sorry for you but pretended to laugh along to spare you embarrassment. Little did I know, your constant bragging was actually a confession of your true character.
That's terrible! I'm so sorry you had to go through all! Thank you for sharing this.
 
You’re right I did choose to hire Brian. But I want to make this clear. When news first broke out about Brian the community was extremely divided. I’m sure a lot of people who were present during the group chats can attest to this. Everyone was giving different opinions-positive and negative. I got lots of dms from both sides but a lot of the people who were warning me not to hire Brian were giving me extremely cryptic messages with no evidence. Some of them started getting extremely rude and defensive when I simply asked them if they can back up their claims and would just personally attack me and say extremely racist things. Of course when people speak to you in this way i will be less inclined to believe their experience when they avoid giving proof and are racist. How do I know which random stranger to trust when they are behind a screen. All the while one party is sending only accusations and no proof or context. I was torn. In hindsight of course it’s easy to say I should’ve known better but in all honesty I didn’t know who to trust cause no one wanted to give me their TRUTH. At the end of the day the community at large needed transparency. Even now after this post I’ve been getting a plethora of private messages but lots of people being reluctant to share their experience or get involved. Shaming people will only encourage people to stay silent and we need to recognize these toxic behaviours. And of course after my first good experience with him I would think the people who were being cryptic and attacking me in my dms were lying. We can argue back and fourth and yes I am naive but that is who I am as a person I always want to give people the benefit of the doubt. I’m sure we’ve all made mistakes in our lives and by how you speak I can tell you’ve been affected by Brian in one way or another. That’s why I’m trying to be very transparent and clear and give my entire experience to whoever reads and wants to see the full truth. I never had the luxury of that and I can tell you a lot of my friends and I were on the same boat. I wish someone was more upfront but no one wanted to tell their story. I don’t want to argue with you cause at the end of the day I messed up by hiring him and referring him but I’m trying to make things right. And like you said “im egg faced and tripped over my own sword” but Atleast im not letting my pride stop me from making things right and not letting people go through the same thing I did.
Joo, I am so sorry to hear this happened to you. It’s damn wrong and I can only imagine how traumatizing it is from your story. Thank you for sharing this with us!! Much appreciated!
 
Thank goodness he did not book it and run, or didn't happen after his disgraceful downfall. Now you can tack on international wire fraud and tax evasion in addition to illegal brokering to his criminal offenses.

Beware of Love Bombing



Did he do all that over-the-top, going out of his way, copy & paste wordy replies, and over explaining text messages, calls and voicemails? What might have been misunderstood as sincere, is actually called "love bombing." How he is one of the "good guys" in a sea of bad people. If you had suspicion he'll use that tinder swindler line, "it's my enemies, coming after me." It's a technique conmen and narcissistic sociopaths use to gaslight and frame them as a selfless servant, victim, and disarm and misdirect your better judgement from their true motives and intentions.

It is emotional manipulation disguised as affection and attention and can influence a person or a watchful audience by demonstrations, displays or word of mouth about their selflessness.

In the context of PS scam translators they do this in their 1:1 or in the group chats they create. This was the same thing Henry did in infamous "View PS Help Chat," and has been re-adopted by translators creating their own help chat group chats. A red flag for instance would be them dong a pseudo-go-fund me for someone stuck in an airport. What looks like selfless act could also be a bold business risk and flex to make people think you're a real hero to get their trust, or if blows up a real victim to get their sympathy. It's worked and people go out of their way to protect these conmen.

They also bank on romanticized notions tourists who consume K-dramas have about Korea, Korean people, and especially Korean men. Another red flag of narcissistic conmen is if they vainly and conceitedly parade their f-boy studio headshots in their marketing channels like they are some kind of a rent-a-oppa. They are trying to tap into that notion.

I wonder if it ever occurs to people to ask themselves, "Why is a middle-aged Korean man so vested in the beauty and problems of foreign women?" If they live in Seoul and have all these financial obligations, how are they going to meet them by humbly earning 25,000 won an hour as a freelancer?
Who started a pseudo go-fund me for someone stuck at the airport? I did hear about the airport situation but it was vague. And I 100% agree with everything you said here.
 
I actually worked with Brian late last year for my rhinoplasty/FC surgeries at Braun and thought I'd chime in with my personal experience. I've been lurking on the forums for a while but never made an account/posted, but since I have now completed my surgery, I thought I would share my journey to help others as these posts have helped me (I'll be posting an honest review on my experience with Braun as well in the future...not all of it was good btw!).

I did not know about all of this controversy prior to reaching out to Brian (I had only seen the older threads with good reviews recommending him) but as soon as I contacted him, he actually was the one to bring to my attention the "negative" reviews online and encouraged me to read them as well. After reading this thread, I ended up still going with him since I already had Braun in mind for my procedures and really only needed someone to negotiate/translate, so the issues here didn't seem to pertain to me as much. Maybe it was because of this thread, but right off the bat Brian said he would not be recommending or naming any specific clinics for me. However, if I wanted to provide a list of hospitals I was interested in, he can help me with research/translation to pick the best fit. He did not suggest any other clinics on his own or pushed me in any direction regarding surgery/clinics whatsoever, and it didn't matter to me since I was already pretty set on Braun. I only really needed Brian to validate some information about the Braun doctors and negotiate pricing. For the pricing - long story short, the clinic was being stubborn and we were able to get a little less than 15% discount. He normally charges 15% of the discount he is able to negotiate down to, but because it was not that much of a discount, he waived his discount fee which I really appreciated. Even though his standard fees were technically for consultation/surgery day/one follow-up appt, he actually came to 2 additional follow-up appointments at no charge because I had some surgery concerns and he happened to be free. Even after I flew back home, I've still been in contact with him with questions/concerns about recovery. Braun has been really unresponsive in terms of after-care questions (will get more into that in my full review) so I had to even reach out to Brian who ended up contacting the clinic for me. Rhinoplasty recovery is tough -- it is so hard to see the end result early on with all the swelling and I def wasn't 100% satisfied especially in the early days after surgery, but Brian was able to reassure me every step of the way (he even responded to me at 3am one night because I was having a hard time 2 days after surgery -- I was panicking cuz I had not been able to sleep for 2 days due to not being able to breathe through my nose, it was horrible). I've honestly come to rely on him so much for support during recovery!

Again, I was in a relatively unique situation where I didn't go to multiple clinics for consultations and had my sights set for Braun from the beginning, so I cannot really speak on that part. But my experience with him has been a genuinely positive one, and I felt like he definitely was my advocate, especially since Braun ended up not being very attentive which was very disappointing.

This post is not to discount anything anyone in this thread have said, but I just wanted to share my honest experience.
 
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to be honest, writing glowing reviews of oneself is a common pattern of behavior of internet scammers. that's why PF admins have pinned a post not to share your personal contact info and beware of meeting strangers offline.

several accounts that gave brian glowing reviews in 2021 had a similar pattern in their handle of comprising of a random word + one to two digits, and all those previous ones that gave brian this initial traction are all banned accounts now. whether that's a coincidence, one can only conjecture.

What i don't understand is despite all these common red flags, people still decide to contact these people. And no one bothers to check their resume, education or training. and they completely handover their lives to them.

It's usually smart people who fall for this scam because their ego and arrogance of thinking they are too smart to be scammed blinds them. average intelligence people smell smoke and go the other way. and even when criticism of them comes out they defend them because in a way it's to protect their ego. these illegal brokers disguising themselves as "buddies" cross emotional boundaries and people think they are their friends, going the extra distance for them. when in reality these illegal brokers see them as their mark and chance for their net promoter score to go up in chats and forums.

several of these people are not allowed to act as medical facilitators and are in breach of criminal law in Korea under the medical act. so if you choose to hire them, and then things get messy, and authorities get involved, you will lose 9 times out of 10 because you are liable for hiring someone not allowed to do what they do. it's like if you hired someone on craigslist who is not a contractor to do your roofing. Don't expect insurance to cover you when it falls on your head (what insurance?), sure you can sue the unlicensed contractor, but good luck with that (do you even know their full legal name? phone number? address? how can you even report it? - "No, i just know their phony english name and kakao handle" well good luck with that)
I totally understand your reservations, but I have proof I am not Brian. I included screenshots of my conversations with him and also with Braun (telling them I will be working with Brian). I don’t have anything to gain by posting this and facing backlash, I just genuinely had a good experience with him and wanted to share. If this were a review Brian wrote for himself, why would he not address the Deesse rumors and clear his name? Like I said in my original post, I don’t know if that part is true or not so I’m not speaking on that since it did not pertain to my particular case. I will just leave this here and it is up to you guys if you choose to believe me.
 

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I totally understand your reservations, but I have proof I am not Brian. I included screenshots of my conversations with him and also with Braun (telling them I will be working with Brian). I don’t have anything to gain by posting this and facing backlash, I just genuinely had a good experience with him and wanted to share. If this were a review Brian wrote for himself, why would he not address the Deesse rumors and clear his name? Like I said in my original post, I don’t know if that part is true or not so I’m not speaking on that since it did not pertain to my particular case. I will just leave this here and it is up to you guys if you choose to believe me.
I made my rhinoplasty inquiry yesterday and they offered me 20% off for paying the surgery fee fully in cash, i seriously don't understand why there are people falling for these fraudsters when you can actually get a discount on your own, plus there's in house interpreters everywhere these days, especially if the area is in gannam. stop promoting brian here and create more victims.
 
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I made my rhinoplasty inquiry yesterday and they offered me 20% off for paying the surgery fee fully in cash, i seriously don't understand why there are people falling for these fraudsters when you can actually get a discount on your own, plus there's in house interpreters everywhere these days, especially if the area is in gannam. stop promoting brian here and create more victims.
You must be a much better negotiator than I lol, when I initially asked ON MY OWN (before I found Brian), they only offered me 10% discount when booking in all cash.
 
I made my rhinoplasty inquiry yesterday and they offered me 20% off for paying the surgery fee fully in cash, i seriously don't understand why there are people falling for these fraudsters when you can actually get a discount on your own, plus there's in house interpreters everywhere these days, especially if the area is in gannam. stop promoting brian here and create more victims.
I agree, it's ridiculous that they are promoting these fraudsters even after reading multiple exposure accounts. Plus there are government interpreters available who are licensed and insured. They think they hire a translator/negotiator so that they can get a better deal. The jokes on them, and the quote end up being equal to or more expensive than going alone or hiring a licensed interpreter.
 
I cannot totally agree with this about agencies. I first thought I won't write anything on this thread although I had a few doubts and questions I wanted to be answered because I had a few contradicting experiences but I decided to write a comment and share a bit of what I experienced because of some worrisome misguiding information. I have no intention of bashing or defending anybody, simply sharing what I have experienced and my opinions since that is what this community is about.

I first started my research on plastic surgeries in Korea during the pandemic but not that devotedly at that point. I finally joined this purseforum last year and started my plastic surgery adventure seriously since then, had my facial contouring and eye surgeries at Braun this year, March. I have contacted two of so called agencies and two of private translators, all that are commonly mentioned in this forum and kkt group chats. By the time I reached out to these agencies and translators, I already have done quite a bit of research on the clinics and doctors, I already have contacted quite a few of them, I already had quite some clinics on both of my shortlist and blacklist with some quotes from them. This being said, the reason I didn't go with the agencies is that they immediately started recommending a very few clinics and these clinics were either on my blacklist as a factory or foreigner oriented clinics, or were clinics that I have never heard of. Nothing wrong with new clinics and I was actually looking for some new names but when I tried to research on these clinics, I didn't find them appealing to me. More than anything, I already had some quotes from two of the clinics that were mentioned by these agencies, and the quotes these agencies gave out were significantly higher.

For the translators, I ended up going with Brian after talking to both of the two translators I have contacted and it is very ironic for me to write this because joojooyoung96's post was one of the reasons I have contacted him first. I feel awful that she had to experience what she has experienced and I am still grateful for all the contributions she has made since I benefited a lot from her brave and selfless experience sharing. Honestly, I am quite confused myself at this point because I know what I have experienced but things seem very contradicting, even opposite at certain points. For example, one of the reasons I went with Brian from the start, is because he was very reluctant about recommending clinics. I kept insisting on it, I told him it is just for the reference and that I am aware it would be fully my responsibility at the end of the day since I would make my final call myself. I believed that he definitely would know more and better about Korean plastic surgery and the clinics because of his experience in his profession so I just wanted his insights as well. Since he first refused to say any clinic names himself first, I gave him a few on my list to ask for his opinion on them and he could provide very helpful information about those clinics. Then he finally gave quite many clinic names saying his own clients had their surgeries from them but he kept emphasizing on me researching on those clinics myself and what clinics I want to book for consultations would be totally up to me. But yes, Deesse was one of the clinics he mentioned. Few of the clinics he gave out were already on my shortlist and I looked into the other clinics myself as well. He didn’t give out just the names but he explained good and bad things about each clinic so it made me feel well informed. And once again, more than anything, I already had some quotes from these clinics, and for those new clinics he has mentioned, I actually contacted them directly myself to ask for quotes after hearing about them from him. All of them were in the range of the approximate quotes he gave to me and at the end, with the clinic that I finally chose for my surgeries, he could get some discounts so I ended up paying less than the quotes I initially got from them before reaching out to him. I am not saying he is or isn’t connected with any of these clinics, honestly I wouldn’t know. Call me selfish but all I know is I cannot complain because I asked the clinic for the quotes of my surgeries myself first, compared them with the information I gathered from kkt chats, and I ended up paying less than that with him trying to get some discounts in front of my eyes after the f2f consultation. Maybe some tricks I missed are hidden in this process but I already knew I wouldn’t be able to negotiate like that myself so I cannot help feeling I got some good help.
What got me most confused with after reading the thread would be f2f consultations and choosing my last clinic part. I ended up booking 3 clinics for the consultations Deesse being the second one to visit on that day. I chose two clinics that were already on my list and Deesse. Although I included Deesse as well because I liked what I saw after researching about the clinic myself, it is true that I first heard about the clinic from him and some reviews here but I believe some of those reviews are from his clients as well. I have talked to two reviewers who wrote about this clinic and after talking to them and hearing them speaking highly of Brian and the clinic, I felt more reassured. I guess this has blurred my judgement a bit because after having the f2f consultation at Deesse, I was already sold. So when the consultant was trying to close the deal and offering some discounts making it sound like it is one and only special deal that I could get only if I put down my deposit right then, I told Brian I would like to proceed. But it was Brian who has put a break there for me and talked some senses into me. He told me it wouldn’t be too late to decide after seeing the last clinic might as well since it was already booked and asked the clinic to hold that good deal until the end of the day. After visiting Braun, I really liked the clinic and doctors as well. It was a tight call with different strong points. Braun’s quotes were lower and could offer an earlier surgery date. These wouldn’t be the prior reasons to pick a clinic for me but they sure were winning points when I liked both clinics almost equally. After the last consultation, Brian and I sat down at a café and discussed all the pros and cons of each clinic we visited together. When he first stopped me from the deposit with Deesse, to be 100% honest with you, it would be a lie if I say that thought of “is he affiliated with Braun?” didn’t cross my mind for a slight second. Although it was a clinic that I included on my list myself even before talking to him, I read some comments like “Braun & Brian” from this forum and group chats so it made me think that way for one second. But when we were talking about all the clinics at the café, he just went over all the points with me and didn’t try to sell any of the clinics to me leaving it to me to choose my favorite clinic. So if you read this far, you can see why I feel confused. Deesse was more expensive and I was already all for putting down the deposit but he stopped me from jumping into a rushed decision. It didn’t seem like he was selling Braun over Deesse either, it genuinely just felt like he wanted me to go over all my options first so that I could make the best decision. I was planning on paying him for the day regardless but who knows, he might have thought it was a less translation pay for him if I ended up not visiting the last clinic because he charged according to either hours or number of clinics we were visiting together. And since I paid less with the clinic I chose at the end than what I would’ve paid if to go alone, since I probably would have paid the initial quotes the clinic has given to me when I contacted the clinic myself before talking to him, I cannot really say he ripped me off. Honestly, I would’ve been less shocked or confused if somebody said he is somehow affiliated with Braun. Not because I would agree or anything, since I couldn’t find anything suspicious from my own experience, but at least it would make a bit of more sense to me because he stopped me from rushing into Deesse and I ended up picking Braun as my final clinic.
Karena setelah operasi, dia mengatakan kepada saya sejak awal bahwa dia hanya mengenakan biaya selama dia berada di sana yaitu hari operasi dan hari setelah operasi untuk membantu saya kembali ke hotel dari klinik, dan pada jahitan terakhir saya. hari pelepasan ketika saya menemui dokter. Dan saya tidak mempermasalahkannya karena saya setuju bahwa penerjemahan atau komunikasi akan sangat minim pada kesempatan lain. Saya mengunjungi klinik 4 kali setelah operasi selama saya tinggal dan dia benar-benar mampir sekali lagi pada kunjungan kedua saya yang bukan merupakan salah satu hari yang dia katakan akan dia lakukan dan tidak memungut biaya apa pun untuk hari itu. Memang benar dia tidak berbuat banyak saat ini karena klinik tersebut mempunyai penerjemahnya sendiri dan itu hanya sekedar pembersihan dan laser, tapi menurutku dia tetap baik. Dia mengambilkan obat-obatan dan jus labu untuk saya, saya pikir apa yang dia berikan sudah cukup dan biayanya masuk akal tetapi saya mendengar beberapa agen menyediakan semua penjemputan dengan tumpangan dan menemani Anda untuk setiap kunjungan. Saya memiliki ekspektasi yang tinggi terhadap Brian karena beberapa orang yang saya ajak bicara mengatakan kepada saya bahwa dia melakukan semua yang ekstra, “lebih dari itu” dan itulah yang saya rasakan terhadapnya juga sampai dia membantu saya kembali ke hotel setelah bagian operasi saya, tapi sejujurnya, tidak ada sesuatu yang mewah atau istimewa tentang perawatan pasca operasinya. Ini hanya berdasarkan apa yang saya alami dan saya tidak mengeluh karena bukan berarti dia tidak melakukan apa yang seharusnya dia lakukan, saya hanya mengatakan tidak ada sesuatu yang mewah atau istimewa tentang hal itu.
Aku menulis jauh lebih lama dari rencana awalku dan meskipun aku memulai dengan mengatakan bahwa aku tidak mencoba menghina atau membela siapa pun, aku sudah tahu beberapa orang akan menuduhku anti-agensi, promotor Brian, dan lain-lain. Kamu bisa melihat semua postinganku dan akan mengetahui bahwa saya telah mengumpulkan informasi yang saya butuhkan dari sini selama beberapa waktu sekarang, selalu menunjukkan penghargaan saya kepada mereka yang pantas mendapatkannya, dan meskipun saya menjalani operasi pada bulan Maret tahun ini, saya belum pernah memposting ulasan atau thread untuk mempromosikan individu atau klinik tertentu. Saya cukup senang dengan keseluruhan pengalaman dan hasilnya jadi saya kembali ke kehidupan saya dan hidup saya menjadi cukup sibuk setelah kembali karena saya harus melakukan perjalanan Korea selama 19 hari ini berhasil. Sebenarnya saya tidak pernah berniat untuk menulis ulasan, bahkan ketika saya pertama kali membaca thread ini karena saya pikir apa pun yang mungkin terdengar sedikit positif tentang Brian atau penerjemah mana pun mungkin menyinggung perasaan joojooyoung96 dan itu akan menjadi hal terakhir yang ingin saya lakukan ketika dia menderita secara tidak adil karena hal yang tidak pantas diterimanya. Namun saya mulai merasa tidak nyaman ketika semuanya tampaknya mengarah pada pro-agensi dan anti-penerjemah.
Sama seperti joojooyoung96 atau pengguna lain di forum ini yang berhak berbagi pengalaman mereka, dan karena tindakan berani dan baik hati tersebut membantu saya melalui petualangan saya, saya juga membagikan pengalaman saya. Saya tidak mengatakan semua agensi itu buruk, saya tidak mengatakan Brian atau penerjemah mana pun bagus, saya hanya berbagi apa yang saya alami karena saya sendiri juga agak bingung. Dan terakhir, saya benar-benar menerima tidak hanya informasi berharga tetapi juga energi positif yang baik dari ulasan Anda ketika saya pertama kali meneliti petualangan saya, joojooyoung96! Saya masih bersyukur untuk ini dan saya masih percaya bahwa saya berhasil melakukannya berkat Anda. Mohon jangan merasa bersalah atau terlalu stres dengan ulasan atau tindakan Anda sebelumnya, Anda tidak mengetahuinya dan Anda hanya memiliki niat baik. Dan orang-orang seperti saya masih mendapat banyak manfaat darinya. Jadi terima kasih! XOXO
Can i get contac brian?
 
Im just curious to see how many of these freelance translators posted on here are affiliated with hospitals or not. Because it seems like hospitals that dont have their own in house translators are using the ones posted here. I feel like the pool is very small and that the hospitals could be giving them incentives to talk us into doing our surgeries with them.
Scary and we don't really know who they are or their real names
 
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