EXPOSING THE DARK TRUTH OF BRIAN THE TRANSLATOR - PLASTIC SURGERY NIGHTMARE AT DEESSE

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Thank you so much for writing this testimonial. I'm new to the forum but I'm interested in getting plastic surgery in South Korea. Shame to see that there are so many "handsome" Korean guys playing up the Kpop Oppa angle to swindle people out of money :(. Definitely would love to get some recommendations for female translators on this forum!
 
I hope things will work out for you. A botched nose job like the one I got from Dr. Jimmy Chuang Wish Clinic Taipei, Taiwan cannot be fixed.
He butchered my nose. He has no skills and most of the 5 stars reviews on the internet are written by him or his PR staff team. See google has so many wonderful reviews if that was true at all, he won't need to lie to all his patients. He is super rich if he is so skilled and not botched most procedures. He purchased countless burner cell phones to use those phone numbers to place fake reviews.

There is no aftercare even thought they tell you how great their aftercare is. There is NONE.
 
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I hope things will work out for you. A botched nose job like the one I got from Dr. Jimmy Chuang Wish Clinic Taipei, Taiwan cannot be fixed.
He butchered my nose. He has no skills and most of the 5 stars reviews on the internet are written by him or his PR staff team. See google has so many wonderful reviews if that was true at all, he won't need to lie to all his patients. He is super rich if he is so skilled and not botched most procedures. He purchased countless burner cell phones to use those phone numbers to place fake reviews.

There is no aftercare even thought they tell you how great their aftercare is. There is NONE.
I won't depend on reviews on Google that is a no no no!
These clinics are nothing but money makers that is why we need to gather all information and ask too many questions about our concerns. If they answer you short and don't have the answers or show ill attitude ... move on and go find another clinic. That me!
 
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I hope things will work out for you. A botched nose job like the one I got from Dr. Jimmy Chuang Wish Clinic Taipei, Taiwan cannot be fixed.
He butchered my nose. He has no skills and most of the 5 stars reviews on the internet are written by him or his PR staff team. See google has so many wonderful reviews if that was true at all, he won't need to lie to all his patients. He is super rich if he is so skilled and not botched most procedures. He purchased countless burner cell phones to use those phone numbers to place fake reviews.

There is no aftercare even thought they tell you how great their aftercare is. There is NONE.
oh my god that's terrible. Did you end up going for a revision for your nose? or is it still botched? :(
 
Thank you Sonya for sharing your experience! I think both of your experiences are valid. It's so interesting how people perceive things to be so different. I'm grateful for both Sonya and Joojooyoung for contributing to the wealth of knowledge on this forum :heart: It helps people come to their own conclusions.
Thank you for your kind support. I was all prepared to get sprung out at when I wrote that so I didn't bother visiting this forum after that but some DM and comments like yours made me feel less scared about sharing what I have experienced. xoxo!
 
I cannot totally agree with this about agencies. I first thought I won't write anything on this thread although I had a few doubts and questions I wanted to be answered because I had a few contradicting experiences but I decided to write a comment and share a bit of what I experienced because of some worrisome misguiding information. I have no intention of bashing or defending anybody, simply sharing what I have experienced and my opinions since that is what this community is about.

I first started my research on plastic surgeries in Korea during the pandemic but not that devotedly at that point. I finally joined this purseforum last year and started my plastic surgery adventure seriously since then, had my facial contouring and eye surgeries at Braun this year, March. I have contacted two of so called agencies and two of private translators, all that are commonly mentioned in this forum and kkt group chats. By the time I reached out to these agencies and translators, I already have done quite a bit of research on the clinics and doctors, I already have contacted quite a few of them, I already had quite some clinics on both of my shortlist and blacklist with some quotes from them. This being said, the reason I didn't go with the agencies is that they immediately started recommending a very few clinics and these clinics were either on my blacklist as a factory or foreigner oriented clinics, or were clinics that I have never heard of. Nothing wrong with new clinics and I was actually looking for some new names but when I tried to research on these clinics, I didn't find them appealing to me. More than anything, I already had some quotes from two of the clinics that were mentioned by these agencies, and the quotes these agencies gave out were significantly higher.

For the translators, I ended up going with Brian after talking to both of the two translators I have contacted and it is very ironic for me to write this because joojooyoung96's post was one of the reasons I have contacted him first. I feel awful that she had to experience what she has experienced and I am still grateful for all the contributions she has made since I benefited a lot from her brave and selfless experience sharing. Honestly, I am quite confused myself at this point because I know what I have experienced but things seem very contradicting, even opposite at certain points. For example, one of the reasons I went with Brian from the start, is because he was very reluctant about recommending clinics. I kept insisting on it, I told him it is just for the reference and that I am aware it would be fully my responsibility at the end of the day since I would make my final call myself. I believed that he definitely would know more and better about Korean plastic surgery and the clinics because of his experience in his profession so I just wanted his insights as well. Since he first refused to say any clinic names himself first, I gave him a few on my list to ask for his opinion on them and he could provide very helpful information about those clinics. Then he finally gave quite many clinic names saying his own clients had their surgeries from them but he kept emphasizing on me researching on those clinics myself and what clinics I want to book for consultations would be totally up to me. But yes, Deesse was one of the clinics he mentioned. Few of the clinics he gave out were already on my shortlist and I looked into the other clinics myself as well. He didn’t give out just the names but he explained good and bad things about each clinic so it made me feel well informed. And once again, more than anything, I already had some quotes from these clinics, and for those new clinics he has mentioned, I actually contacted them directly myself to ask for quotes after hearing about them from him. All of them were in the range of the approximate quotes he gave to me and at the end, with the clinic that I finally chose for my surgeries, he could get some discounts so I ended up paying less than the quotes I initially got from them before reaching out to him. I am not saying he is or isn’t connected with any of these clinics, honestly I wouldn’t know. Call me selfish but all I know is I cannot complain because I asked the clinic for the quotes of my surgeries myself first, compared them with the information I gathered from kkt chats, and I ended up paying less than that with him trying to get some discounts in front of my eyes after the f2f consultation. Maybe some tricks I missed are hidden in this process but I already knew I wouldn’t be able to negotiate like that myself so I cannot help feeling I got some good help.
What got me most confused with after reading the thread would be f2f consultations and choosing my last clinic part. I ended up booking 3 clinics for the consultations Deesse being the second one to visit on that day. I chose two clinics that were already on my list and Deesse. Although I included Deesse as well because I liked what I saw after researching about the clinic myself, it is true that I first heard about the clinic from him and some reviews here but I believe some of those reviews are from his clients as well. I have talked to two reviewers who wrote about this clinic and after talking to them and hearing them speaking highly of Brian and the clinic, I felt more reassured. I guess this has blurred my judgement a bit because after having the f2f consultation at Deesse, I was already sold. So when the consultant was trying to close the deal and offering some discounts making it sound like it is one and only special deal that I could get only if I put down my deposit right then, I told Brian I would like to proceed. But it was Brian who has put a break there for me and talked some senses into me. He told me it wouldn’t be too late to decide after seeing the last clinic might as well since it was already booked and asked the clinic to hold that good deal until the end of the day. After visiting Braun, I really liked the clinic and doctors as well. It was a tight call with different strong points. Braun’s quotes were lower and could offer an earlier surgery date. These wouldn’t be the prior reasons to pick a clinic for me but they sure were winning points when I liked both clinics almost equally. After the last consultation, Brian and I sat down at a café and discussed all the pros and cons of each clinic we visited together. When he first stopped me from the deposit with Deesse, to be 100% honest with you, it would be a lie if I say that thought of “is he affiliated with Braun?” didn’t cross my mind for a slight second. Although it was a clinic that I included on my list myself even before talking to him, I read some comments like “Braun & Brian” from this forum and group chats so it made me think that way for one second. But when we were talking about all the clinics at the café, he just went over all the points with me and didn’t try to sell any of the clinics to me leaving it to me to choose my favorite clinic. So if you read this far, you can see why I feel confused. Deesse was more expensive and I was already all for putting down the deposit but he stopped me from jumping into a rushed decision. It didn’t seem like he was selling Braun over Deesse either, it genuinely just felt like he wanted me to go over all my options first so that I could make the best decision. I was planning on paying him for the day regardless but who knows, he might have thought it was a less translation pay for him if I ended up not visiting the last clinic because he charged according to either hours or number of clinics we were visiting together. And since I paid less with the clinic I chose at the end than what I would’ve paid if to go alone, since I probably would have paid the initial quotes the clinic has given to me when I contacted the clinic myself before talking to him, I cannot really say he ripped me off. Honestly, I would’ve been less shocked or confused if somebody said he is somehow affiliated with Braun. Not because I would agree or anything, since I couldn’t find anything suspicious from my own experience, but at least it would make a bit of more sense to me because he stopped me from rushing into Deesse and I ended up picking Braun as my final clinic.
For after the surgery, he told me from the beginning that he charges only for the times he is there which will be the surgery day and the day after the surgery to help me get back to my hotel from the clinic, and on my last stitch removal day when I see the doctors. And I didn’t mind it because I agreed that translation or communication would be minimal during other occasions. I visited the clinic 4 times after the surgery during my stay and he actually stopped by once more on my second visit which wasn’t one of the days he said he would and didn’t charge anything for that day. It is true that he didn’t do much at this time because the clinic had its own translators and it was just some cleaning and laser, but I still found it nice of him. He picked up my meds and pumpkin juice for me, I thought what he provided were sufficient enough and the charges were reasonable but I heard some agencies provide all the pick ups with rides and accompany you for each visit. I had some high expectations for Brian because some people I have talked to told me that he did all the extra, “beyond and more” and that is how I felt about him too until him helping me back to my hotel after my surgery part, but to be fair, there wasn’t anything fancy or special about his after surgery care. This is just based on solely what I have experienced and I am not complaining because it isn’t like he didn’t do what he was supposed to, I’m just saying there wasn’t anything that fancy or special about it.
I wrote so much longer than my initial plan and although I started off saying I am not trying to bash or defend anybody, I already know some people will accuse me of anti-agency, Brian promoter and etc. You can see all my posts and will find out that I have been gathering the information I need from here for quite some time now, always showing my appreciation to the ones who deserve it, and although I had my surgeries in March of this year, I have never posted a review or thread to promote any specific individuals or clinics. I was quite happy with overall experience and the results so I just went back to my life and my life has been quite busy after coming back since I had to make this 19 day Korea trip work. I actually never had an intention of writing a review, even when I first read this thread because I thought anything that might sound even slightly positive about Brian or any translators might offend joojooyoung96 and that would be the last thing I would want to do when she is unfairly suffering from what she doesn’t deserve. But I started feeling uncomfortable when the whole thing seems to be somehow leading to pro-agencies and anti-translators.
Just like joojooyoung96 or any other users of this forum have right to share their experience, and since those brave and good hearted actions helped me through my adventure, I am sharing my experience as well. I am not saying all the agencies are bad, I am not saying Brian or any translators are good, I am simply sharing what I have experienced since I am a bit confused myself too. And lastly, I really received not only valuable information but also good positive energy from your reviews when I was first researching for my adventure, joojooyoung96! I am still grateful for this and I still believe that I made it successfully thanks to you. Please don’t feel guilty or too stressed about your previous review or actions, you didn’t know and you only had good intentions. And people like me still benefited a lot from it. So thank you! XOXO
But to be clear and fair, I apologize to all those members who have DMed me. I am sorry but I won't reply to the direct messages, I don't feel comfortable with sharing his ID because my intention wasn't promoting him or to say he is all great. Yes I feel thankful and I had a good experience but that is just based on my own experience and I'm aware there may be some sides I couldn't see.
 
I'm not understanding why people use translators. All clinics offer translators.

Not difficult to navigate seoul either. All you need is naver map or kakao map. Use Google map for the live arrow thing for direction. For translation: Google translate and papago translate. If you're stuck at a station, there's a button on one of the card scan gate that says "help". Someone will come out from the transit customer services.

Always remember to choose a specific doctor and not the clinic. Always leave 3-4 hours interval between appointments at different busy clinics. You may be awaiting a while to see the doctor in between the surgeries they have booked. Trust your gut feeling and squint to see if doctor points out nuances that would pertain to your own features; Not a doctor who is reciting a surgical textbook to you. I say always go for a doctor that is transparent with the cons before dazzling you with the pros.

Do your research so you can haggle. Many OGs have posted how-to's on here.

Also, GREED knows no bounds. Brian may have been helpful at first. But seeing as all of you are spending thousands at clinics, of course he would want a cut.

I apologize for hijacking thread. I'm glad op exposed him. He seems like the type who will take advantage of many others. Don't trust a stranger in a foreign country. Someone post his photo. Next time he may come out as a con man with another name.
 
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Hello everyone, you may know me from my past review I did with Braun and having Brian as my translator. I am writing this review in order to help and possibly stop this situation from ever reoccurring ever again to anyone else as what I have endured in my recent trip was unbelievably unethical and traumatizing. Please understand that this is not a review I created in efforts to bash anyone but to give a fair review of my own personal experience. Please do with this information as you will and I am only able to give my experience as a warning. I was also never in anyway previously ever affiliated with Brian or Braun in any shape or form. I previously had an outstanding experience with them so when I was asked about my experience I felt like I could genuinely recommend Brian to people because I believed his services were truly unmatched in terms of a plastic surgery “guide”. When I previously used his services he was just starting out his personal business as a freelance medical tourism guide, but after he gained more popularity I’ve found out that his moral compass had quickly changed and his main objective was no longer to have the best interest for his clients- but purely for greed and money. It is truly frightening how much he has changed and it has been another eye opening experience of how quickly some people can throw away their ethics and morals in exchange for just money. I would also disclose that I was given many warnings about using Brian and his unethical character by previous unhappy clients but I chose to ignore these warnings as I believed my interactions with him were genuine and he was fighting hard to disprove his shady reputation. I really wanted to give him a chance after seeing how dedicated he was to being a medical guide while chatting online with him and after meeting him in real life. Though I didn't believe all the stories he tried to sell me he was adamant that his "competitors" and hospitals were out to destroy his character because they didn't like the business model he was trying to promote of "being an honest and transparent translator dedicated to fighting for his clients and exposing bad clinic practices. I had my reservations but after a couple of my friends had good experiences with him I decided to hire him. Again my first experience with him in Korea was great, though my recent one not so much.



I would like to start off by starting straight to the point. It has come to my attention from many of Brian’s previous clients and myself that Brian is leveraging his position as a guide to coerce his clients to go to specific hospitals. He would knowingly recommend Deesse to me when there were multiple cases of unhappy and botched clients at this hospital before me. During my first trip with Brian he was very strict with not recommending or giving opinions on clinics. After my second experience he was extremely persuasive in recommending me to Deesse. So much so that he had persuaded me to not go to my first choice (Braun) by repeatedly telling me that Braun is not good for eyebrow lifts. He would repeatedly remind me that and tell me his client got botched at Braun for eyebrow lifts. In my position my main concern were my uneven eyebrows. For years I was SO SELF CONSCIOUS of their unevenness so I told Brian “I am willing to go to the best dr for eye brow lift regardless of the price and if I go under and I wake up and I still have uneven eyebrows I will be so depressed.” I’ll elaborate on this point later on, but essentially during my consult with Braun, before and after he was insistent on me not going to Braun and go to Deesse instead. I do have to point out that my first consult at Braun during my trip my consult felt very rushed because they were running late on surgery. Of course that left a bad feeling for me and he really leveraged that to his advantage. I immediately regretted not going to Braun during my one year post op appointment near the end of my trip as I saw all the people in the waiting room and even with their different levels of swelling I felt the results looked like what I was looking for. Brian was extremely persuasive with his glowing testimonials of Deesse. I knew of a lot of friends who went to Deese personally and I was always so impressed by their lip augmentation work. I unfortunately made the stupid assumption that because they were great with lips they’d be great with other surgeries. When Brian told me that their Dr Kim Jin Hyung was an excellent doctor gate kept by the local Koreans I made the mistake of trusting him. I really do regret this lapse of judgement as I had gained a lot of trust for Brian after my amazing experience at Braun. I also recommended a lot of my friends to Brian who used his services around the same time frame I did and they also had the same stellar experience. Little did I know that after he gained more popularity people’s experiences and opinions of him had dramatically changed.



I had a consultation with Dr Kim Jin Hyung and he sounded extremely knowledgeable and professional. He was giving me informative answers and really catered my consultation to my specific case. He made the promise that my eyebrow asymmetry would be fixed by atleast 70%. I remember asking for pictures and they never showed me any but Brian was relentless on his recommendation. I would also like to point out that I paid a very high price. A LOT higher than most other clinics. I also paid A LOT for an unsatisfactory tipplasty as well. In my head I really thought that I am paying for a special premium. Brian was only able to get me a 1000$ discount as well. The entire time he made it sound like he was moving mountains to make this discount possible. I would also like to point out that during my entire plastic surgery journey this time around, Brian was pretty much not present. He did not do much research at all, he did not check on me post-surgery, he only showed up to two appointments. I never thought of it as a big deal as I would always remind myself that he is extremely busy now and honestly, I understood and I didn’t think a big deal of it. One appointment he came and watched as I got my stitches removed it was quite annoying to be honest… he kind of just stood there and watched as the nurse removed mucus out of my nose while he put on an act of looking present. He was only there for 2 minutes because he was there with another client who was also getting surgery at Deese. The next time he showed up was when I was upset about my experience and wanted to consult with the doctor about what happened and also get a breast augmentation consult. I expected him to advocate for me, but he didn’t at all. (I’ll get into this later, but I soon realized he did the exact same thing to another friend of mine).



I would also like to point out that I left my phone in his car after my surgery, and he didn’t get it back to me for 3 days. I didn’t make a deal out of it because he made it seem like he was very busy the entire 3 days juggling work and clients. But when I asked him what he did that weekend he said, “I was too lazy to work so I stayed home and did nothing.” He immediately realized what he said and his body language tensed. A reoccurring theme that I noticed with him is that he really overestimated his cleverness. I cannot imagine how careless he is of his own clients when his returning client whom he repeatedly called his “younger sister” is in a foreign country, recovering from surgery with no phone for 3 days. I was not far away from him either. I literally stayed above Gangnam station at the officetels there. I literally said I could pick it up from him and he never got back to me.



So back to the point of my surgery results. My eyebrow lift made absolutely no difference. I was devastated. I paid a premium to ensure I’d have good results, and I did not. I was guaranteed atleast 70% difference. Even my tipplasty I am always reminded of how much I hate it every time I look at the mirror. I showed him the style I wanted and the style he delivered was not what I wanted at all. I told Brian and he did nothing. He did not bring this up to the doctor. He only spoke with the consultant, and I was very annoyed that he was gaslighting me the whole time saying my eyebrow results were great. He even gaslit me about my nose too. He was completely on the hospitals side and would not advocate for me at all. I felt so unheard and so unvalidated but being in my vulnerable state I was desperate to grasp onto the idea that I was being unfair. Before my next point I also need to point out that I signed a contract that said if I was unhappy with my results I can get a revision for free within one year. I even asked the Doctor what his thoughts on a revision would be during my last appointment and he said it won’t be possible for atleast 5 years. So my contract was void. I told Brian about this later. I told him I hate my results, even seeing my before and after picture I was filled with so much disappointment and sadness because I saw no difference in my eyebrows and HATED my nose. He had the audacity to say, “I apologize on behalf of the doctor but let's see what we can get done for next time.” No, I don’t want to figure this out for next time when Brian did absolutely nothing for me THIS time. I don’t need his apology it means nothing to me. The doctor and Brian even just suggested to do botox to fix my asymmetry. Well I would’ve appreciated just getting botox before this whole trainwreck. I hired Brian and paid him money to advocate and look after my best interest. But he only cared about his money (+ unconfirmed but likely commission he was receiving from Deesse) and his relationship with the hospital. Another important piece of info I think was very concerning was that he was telling me he was looking at hospitals to get a free/discounted face lift from, and Deesse was his number one choice. He also told me he is bringing his girlfriend to get her lips done. So he was really just trying his best to cover his own corners and keep his relationship with the hospital.



After speaking to many of his clients we all started to connect the dots. He was bringing all of his clients to have a consult at Deesse. He would hype them up and then he would drop an insanely high price point. When we were expecting him to do his job and haggle he would make excuses and say it’s not possible- and trust me it was possible. Not only that but he would really pressure me after meeting in real life to get a facelift done as well. When I met him in real life he was adamant on selling it. He really made me believe that getting a facelift done immediately was essential and there would be no side effects of getting a facelift done so young asides from getting "addicted to it". It made me feel so stressed and like I couldn’t trust the mirror. After having my post consult meeting with him I was so stressed I didn't speak to him for 3 days. He kept insisting there were no side effects of getting a facelift proactively at my 27 years of age and at the cafe when I voiced why I don't want to he dismissed me and said that people only turn out looking "overdone" when they are older because they use too much filler and spoke with much annoyance. I know that he pressured/sold facelifts not just to me but also another friend of mine which made my blood boil because my 19 year old friend got A FACELIFT at deesse with him alongside her vline the same time as me. 19.SO UNBELIVABLY YOUNG AND IMPRESSIONABLE. But honestly the main point of this is not even about the money. Sure money will always come and go, but the trauma of being unsatisfied and feeling betrayed is extremely difficult to live with. But you know what else is something that one cannot easily overcome? Having a reputation for having bad practices and being a bad character. As I begun to converse more with his previous clients we all begun to realize what was going on. He even said to one of my friends " I can't believe they did this to you I will NEVER EVER recommend Deesse to any of my clients again!" When in reality he's been pushing the hospital non-stop. And because of this I cannot allow these extremely unethical practices to continue. I feel as though I have a part to blame for giving Brian glowing reviews, but if I had known this was what money turned him into, I would’ve never wasted my time. And if there was anyone who had a bad experience after I referred him I deeply, sincerely apologize and this is my karma.



I am going to Lake Como next week and am supposed to get engaged. But literally the past month was just unbearable. I feel like I haven’t been able to breathe fully in so long. I’ve fully immersed myself back into the rabbit hole of counting every calorie, every macro, killing myself at the gym for hours a day, and I know I am relapsing. As if fixating on this will do anything for my situation. I feel so betrayed and shocked. Up until recently I was constantly giving Brian the benefit of the doubt. But after hearing similar stories I realized I was lied to. How can someone be so …. Scary…? I’m not one to usually complain. To be honest I am one to always try to remain positive, but I feel like someone stole something from me. Not just money. I was so wronged in this situation. I am 27 years old, I spent 30,000$ with Brian in less than a year. I really supported his business so much. I would reply back to late messages to refer Brian to everyone who inquired about him. I didn’t miss a single message. I defended him against those who doubted him. I truly wanted his business to do well because I wanted him to enjoy the fruits of his labour. If you’ve read up until now I thank you for listening to my story. I know it’s a lot but thank you for hearing me and giving me a voice. I am just one person among the many people who unfortunately have been victimized. And I am aware of how scary it can be to be vulnerable and share your experience, so I know there are also a lot of other nameless victims I haven’t spoken to. And I’ve also brought up to Brian many times how I felt uncomfortable after hearing negative opinions about him and I would ask him to explain himself. He really would always find a way to talk himself out of taking any accountability and always paint his clients as unreasonable. I can tell you firsthand that as far as I can say with all the self-reflecting, I’ve done I was not unreasonable. Please do not let him twist this story either and I hope that you can believe my experience and take heed.



And Brian I know you’re reading this and truthfully as much as I’m angry and disappointed I have passed my stage of feeling spiteful. I can genuinely say I did not write all this out of anger. I want to at least make sure someone is doing the right thing by sharing their unfiltered experience. I know you won’t change for the better. You are always showing off about the girls you slept with and your girlfriend like they’re prizes and objects. You speak of your past doing unethical things, deceiving people, working with gang members like it’s a flex. To be honest when hearing your stories thinking of your actions as accomplishments, I pitied you but laughed along for you to save you from embarrassment. By always bragging about your “accomplishments” and how sly and smart you are you were actually just telling on yourself truthfully.If you want to push this further go ahead. I will push back and I am not afraid to push harder and you will understand you have messed with the wrong person. I hope you take this as a lesson that your actions will have consequences and eventually you will have to take accountability. Your current situation is an accumulative sum of your actions. You repeatedly being in this situation is a reflection of who you are as a person. I have nothing more to say. Goodluck.







TLDR: My experience with Brian, the once-trusted plastic surgery guide, turned into a nightmare. He manipulated me into choosing a questionable hospital, Deesse, despite my reservations. The surgeon, Dr. Kim Jin Hyung, promised to fix my eyebrow asymmetry but failed to deliver. Brian's absence throughout the process and his greed for money were evident. Don't fall victim to this unethical and money-driven duo.

**This review is not meant to bash anyone but to shed light on the dark truth I've discovered. I must warn you all and offer my own experience as a cautionary tale.


Let's cut to the chase. Many of you may remember my previous review, where I praised Braun and my translator, Brian. I genuinely believed he had his clients' best interests at heart. However, as his popularity grew, he became sloppy and his lack of a moral compass became evident. The shift was alarming.

Here's the scoop: Brian, abusing his position as a guide, manipulates clients into going to specific hospitals, even when there are previous cases of botched procedures and unhappy clients. He swayed me away from my first choice, Braun, by feeding me lies about their incompetence in eyebrow lifts. I fell for it, foolishly believing his recommendations were genuine.

During my trip, Brian's presence was minimal. He neglected his responsibilities, barely researching or checking up on me after surgery. He only showed up for a couple of appointments, putting on a show of being present while his attention was divided amongst other clients. And to top it off, he even kept my phone for three days without a valid reason, despite my close proximity to where he lived. His excuse of being too lazy to return it revealed his carelessness. This recurring theme showcased his overestimation of his own cleverness. Negligence and carelessness at its finest.

But let's talk about the real issue: the results of my surgery. During my consultation with Dr. Kim Jin Hyung at Deesse, he appeared knowledgeable, competent, and professional. He promised to fix my eyebrow asymmetry by at least 70%… My eyebrow lift was an absolute failure. No difference whatsoever. I paid a premium price for guaranteed improvement, but it was all a lie. And my unsatisfactory tipplasty? It's a constant reminder of my disappointment every time I look in the mirror. Despite my complaints, Brian did nothing to address the situation. He gaslit me, disregarded my concerns, and sided with the hospital, all while pretending to care. I felt unheard and betrayed, with no recourse for a revision as promised in the contract.

To make matters worse, the contract promising a free revision if unsatisfied turned out to be worthless. The doctor claimed a revision supposedly wouldn't be possible for at least five years, rendering my contract null and void. Brian completely failed to advocate for me and explore the possibility of revision with the clinic. Brian's response? A feeble apology and empty promises for the future. He had the audacity to suggest using Botox to remedy my eyebrow asymmetry. I didn't want to deal with future solutions when he had failed me in the present. His apologies held no weight, and his disregard for my best interests was apparent.

As I began connecting with other clients of his, a disturbing pattern emerged. Brian was funneling everyone to Deesse, hyping up the hospital, and then hitting them with exorbitant prices. When it came to negotiating, he conveniently found excuses for not securing a better deal, even though it was possible. But that's not all. He pressured me relentlessly to get a facelift, making me question my appearance and causing unnecessary stress. And he did the same to my 19-year-old friend, exploiting her youth and vulnerability. Unbelievable.
The financial aspect is not the only issue here. The trauma of feeling betrayed and dissatisfied is something I can't easily overcome.

Money comes and goes, but the scars of a bad experience linger. I cannot allow these unethical practices to continue unchecked. I apologize to anyone who had a negative experience after my referral. This is my karma, and I take responsibility for it.

Brian's lies and manipulation have shattered my trust in people. I have been through hell and back, unable to enjoy my upcoming wedding engagement trip to Lake Como. Counting every calorie, obsessing over my appearance, and relapsing into unhealthy habits have consumed me. The injustice of this situation cuts deep. I am 27 years old, I spent $30,000 with Brian in less than a year. I invested my trust, supported Brian's business wholeheartedly, and defended him against doubters. I would reply back to late messages to refer Brian to everyone who inquired about him. Never missed a single message. I truly wanted his business to thrive because I felt he deserved to enjoy the fruits of his labour. But this story is about more than just my personal struggles; it's about exposing bad characters / practices and warning others. I am just one amongst many whom Brian has victimized. I’ve vocalized on multiple occasions to Brian how uncomfortable I felt after hearing negative feedback about him from others, and I would ask him to explain himself. He never took any accountability and was quick to demonize the clients - accusing them of being unreasonable. I can tell you firsthand that as far as I can say with all the self-reflecting I’ve done - I was not unreasonable. Please do not let him twist this story either. I hope you will take heed and avoid making the same mistakes. Avoid partnering with him.

To Brian, I know you're reading this. My anger has evolved into a genuine desire for transparency. This isn't a rant fueled by emotion. My intention is to ensure someone takes responsibility by sharing the unfiltered truth. I don't expect you to change for the better. You seem to take pride in bragging about the women you've slept with and treating them as objects. You boast about your past involvement in unethical activities, deceiving people, and associating with gang members as if it's a flex. Frankly, when I heard these stories, I felt sorry for you but pretended to laugh along to spare you embarrassment. Little did I know, your constant bragging was actually a confession of your true character.
I am ao deeply sorry this happened to you and you got zero resolution. I am hoping you are healing well and you can get this fixed. I hate this for you. Also, thank you for writing this.
 
I'm not understanding why people use translators. All clinics offer translators.

Not difficult to navigate seoul either. All you need is naver map or kakao map. Use Google map for the live arrow thing for direction. For translation: Google translate and papago translate. If you're stuck at a station, there's a button on one of the card scan gate that says "help". Someone will come out from the transit customer services.

Always remember to choose a specific doctor and not the clinic. Always leave 3-4 hours interval between appointments at different busy clinics. You may be awaiting a while to see the doctor in between the surgeries they have booked. Trust your gut feeling and squint to see if doctor points out nuances that would pertain to your own features; Not a doctor who is reciting a surgical textbook to you. I say always go for a doctor that is transparent with the cons before dazzling you with the pros.

Do your research so you can haggle. Many OGs have posted how-to's on here.

Also, GREED knows no bounds. Brian may have been helpful at first. But seeing as all of you are spending thousands at clinics, of course he would want a cut.

I apologize for hijacking thread. I'm glad op exposed him. He seems like the type who will take advantage of many others. Don't trust a stranger in a foreign country. Someone post his photo. Next time he may come out as a con man with another name.
I used a translator because I wanted someone to advocate for me and not be obliged to the clinic they worked for. I'm glad I met a great one and was lucky enough to afford them. There can be lots of reasons someone would want to hire a translator!
 
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Hello everyone, you may know me from my past review I did with Braun and having Brian as my translator. I am writing this review in order to help and possibly stop this situation from ever reoccurring ever again to anyone else as what I have endured in my recent trip was unbelievably unethical and traumatizing. Please understand that this is not a review I created in efforts to bash anyone but to give a fair review of my own personal experience. Please do with this information as you will and I am only able to give my experience as a warning. I was also never in anyway previously ever affiliated with Brian or Braun in any shape or form. I previously had an outstanding experience with them so when I was asked about my experience I felt like I could genuinely recommend Brian to people because I believed his services were truly unmatched in terms of a plastic surgery “guide”. When I previously used his services he was just starting out his personal business as a freelance medical tourism guide, but after he gained more popularity I’ve found out that his moral compass had quickly changed and his main objective was no longer to have the best interest for his clients- but purely for greed and money. It is truly frightening how much he has changed and it has been another eye opening experience of how quickly some people can throw away their ethics and morals in exchange for just money. I would also disclose that I was given many warnings about using Brian and his unethical character by previous unhappy clients but I chose to ignore these warnings as I believed my interactions with him were genuine and he was fighting hard to disprove his shady reputation. I really wanted to give him a chance after seeing how dedicated he was to being a medical guide while chatting online with him and after meeting him in real life. Though I didn't believe all the stories he tried to sell me he was adamant that his "competitors" and hospitals were out to destroy his character because they didn't like the business model he was trying to promote of "being an honest and transparent translator dedicated to fighting for his clients and exposing bad clinic practices. I had my reservations but after a couple of my friends had good experiences with him I decided to hire him. Again my first experience with him in Korea was great, though my recent one not so much.



I would like to start off by starting straight to the point. It has come to my attention from many of Brian’s previous clients and myself that Brian is leveraging his position as a guide to coerce his clients to go to specific hospitals. He would knowingly recommend Deesse to me when there were multiple cases of unhappy and botched clients at this hospital before me. During my first trip with Brian he was very strict with not recommending or giving opinions on clinics. After my second experience he was extremely persuasive in recommending me to Deesse. So much so that he had persuaded me to not go to my first choice (Braun) by repeatedly telling me that Braun is not good for eyebrow lifts. He would repeatedly remind me that and tell me his client got botched at Braun for eyebrow lifts. In my position my main concern were my uneven eyebrows. For years I was SO SELF CONSCIOUS of their unevenness so I told Brian “I am willing to go to the best dr for eye brow lift regardless of the price and if I go under and I wake up and I still have uneven eyebrows I will be so depressed.” I’ll elaborate on this point later on, but essentially during my consult with Braun, before and after he was insistent on me not going to Braun and go to Deesse instead. I do have to point out that my first consult at Braun during my trip my consult felt very rushed because they were running late on surgery. Of course that left a bad feeling for me and he really leveraged that to his advantage. I immediately regretted not going to Braun during my one year post op appointment near the end of my trip as I saw all the people in the waiting room and even with their different levels of swelling I felt the results looked like what I was looking for. Brian was extremely persuasive with his glowing testimonials of Deesse. I knew of a lot of friends who went to Deese personally and I was always so impressed by their lip augmentation work. I unfortunately made the stupid assumption that because they were great with lips they’d be great with other surgeries. When Brian told me that their Dr Kim Jin Hyung was an excellent doctor gate kept by the local Koreans I made the mistake of trusting him. I really do regret this lapse of judgement as I had gained a lot of trust for Brian after my amazing experience at Braun. I also recommended a lot of my friends to Brian who used his services around the same time frame I did and they also had the same stellar experience. Little did I know that after he gained more popularity people’s experiences and opinions of him had dramatically changed.



I had a consultation with Dr Kim Jin Hyung and he sounded extremely knowledgeable and professional. He was giving me informative answers and really catered my consultation to my specific case. He made the promise that my eyebrow asymmetry would be fixed by atleast 70%. I remember asking for pictures and they never showed me any but Brian was relentless on his recommendation. I would also like to point out that I paid a very high price. A LOT higher than most other clinics. I also paid A LOT for an unsatisfactory tipplasty as well. In my head I really thought that I am paying for a special premium. Brian was only able to get me a 1000$ discount as well. The entire time he made it sound like he was moving mountains to make this discount possible. I would also like to point out that during my entire plastic surgery journey this time around, Brian was pretty much not present. He did not do much research at all, he did not check on me post-surgery, he only showed up to two appointments. I never thought of it as a big deal as I would always remind myself that he is extremely busy now and honestly, I understood and I didn’t think a big deal of it. One appointment he came and watched as I got my stitches removed it was quite annoying to be honest… he kind of just stood there and watched as the nurse removed mucus out of my nose while he put on an act of looking present. He was only there for 2 minutes because he was there with another client who was also getting surgery at Deese. The next time he showed up was when I was upset about my experience and wanted to consult with the doctor about what happened and also get a breast augmentation consult. I expected him to advocate for me, but he didn’t at all. (I’ll get into this later, but I soon realized he did the exact same thing to another friend of mine).



I would also like to point out that I left my phone in his car after my surgery, and he didn’t get it back to me for 3 days. I didn’t make a deal out of it because he made it seem like he was very busy the entire 3 days juggling work and clients. But when I asked him what he did that weekend he said, “I was too lazy to work so I stayed home and did nothing.” He immediately realized what he said and his body language tensed. A reoccurring theme that I noticed with him is that he really overestimated his cleverness. I cannot imagine how careless he is of his own clients when his returning client whom he repeatedly called his “younger sister” is in a foreign country, recovering from surgery with no phone for 3 days. I was not far away from him either. I literally stayed above Gangnam station at the officetels there. I literally said I could pick it up from him and he never got back to me.



So back to the point of my surgery results. My eyebrow lift made absolutely no difference. I was devastated. I paid a premium to ensure I’d have good results, and I did not. I was guaranteed atleast 70% difference. Even my tipplasty I am always reminded of how much I hate it every time I look at the mirror. I showed him the style I wanted and the style he delivered was not what I wanted at all. I told Brian and he did nothing. He did not bring this up to the doctor. He only spoke with the consultant, and I was very annoyed that he was gaslighting me the whole time saying my eyebrow results were great. He even gaslit me about my nose too. He was completely on the hospitals side and would not advocate for me at all. I felt so unheard and so unvalidated but being in my vulnerable state I was desperate to grasp onto the idea that I was being unfair. Before my next point I also need to point out that I signed a contract that said if I was unhappy with my results I can get a revision for free within one year. I even asked the Doctor what his thoughts on a revision would be during my last appointment and he said it won’t be possible for atleast 5 years. So my contract was void. I told Brian about this later. I told him I hate my results, even seeing my before and after picture I was filled with so much disappointment and sadness because I saw no difference in my eyebrows and HATED my nose. He had the audacity to say, “I apologize on behalf of the doctor but let's see what we can get done for next time.” No, I don’t want to figure this out for next time when Brian did absolutely nothing for me THIS time. I don’t need his apology it means nothing to me. The doctor and Brian even just suggested to do botox to fix my asymmetry. Well I would’ve appreciated just getting botox before this whole trainwreck. I hired Brian and paid him money to advocate and look after my best interest. But he only cared about his money (+ unconfirmed but likely commission he was receiving from Deesse) and his relationship with the hospital. Another important piece of info I think was very concerning was that he was telling me he was looking at hospitals to get a free/discounted face lift from, and Deesse was his number one choice. He also told me he is bringing his girlfriend to get her lips done. So he was really just trying his best to cover his own corners and keep his relationship with the hospital.



After speaking to many of his clients we all started to connect the dots. He was bringing all of his clients to have a consult at Deesse. He would hype them up and then he would drop an insanely high price point. When we were expecting him to do his job and haggle he would make excuses and say it’s not possible- and trust me it was possible. Not only that but he would really pressure me after meeting in real life to get a facelift done as well. When I met him in real life he was adamant on selling it. He really made me believe that getting a facelift done immediately was essential and there would be no side effects of getting a facelift done so young asides from getting "addicted to it". It made me feel so stressed and like I couldn’t trust the mirror. After having my post consult meeting with him I was so stressed I didn't speak to him for 3 days. He kept insisting there were no side effects of getting a facelift proactively at my 27 years of age and at the cafe when I voiced why I don't want to he dismissed me and said that people only turn out looking "overdone" when they are older because they use too much filler and spoke with much annoyance. I know that he pressured/sold facelifts not just to me but also another friend of mine which made my blood boil because my 19 year old friend got A FACELIFT at deesse with him alongside her vline the same time as me. 19.SO UNBELIVABLY YOUNG AND IMPRESSIONABLE. But honestly the main point of this is not even about the money. Sure money will always come and go, but the trauma of being unsatisfied and feeling betrayed is extremely difficult to live with. But you know what else is something that one cannot easily overcome? Having a reputation for having bad practices and being a bad character. As I begun to converse more with his previous clients we all begun to realize what was going on. He even said to one of my friends " I can't believe they did this to you I will NEVER EVER recommend Deesse to any of my clients again!" When in reality he's been pushing the hospital non-stop. And because of this I cannot allow these extremely unethical practices to continue. I feel as though I have a part to blame for giving Brian glowing reviews, but if I had known this was what money turned him into, I would’ve never wasted my time. And if there was anyone who had a bad experience after I referred him I deeply, sincerely apologize and this is my karma.



I am going to Lake Como next week and am supposed to get engaged. But literally the past month was just unbearable. I feel like I haven’t been able to breathe fully in so long. I’ve fully immersed myself back into the rabbit hole of counting every calorie, every macro, killing myself at the gym for hours a day, and I know I am relapsing. As if fixating on this will do anything for my situation. I feel so betrayed and shocked. Up until recently I was constantly giving Brian the benefit of the doubt. But after hearing similar stories I realized I was lied to. How can someone be so …. Scary…? I’m not one to usually complain. To be honest I am one to always try to remain positive, but I feel like someone stole something from me. Not just money. I was so wronged in this situation. I am 27 years old, I spent 30,000$ with Brian in less than a year. I really supported his business so much. I would reply back to late messages to refer Brian to everyone who inquired about him. I didn’t miss a single message. I defended him against those who doubted him. I truly wanted his business to do well because I wanted him to enjoy the fruits of his labour. If you’ve read up until now I thank you for listening to my story. I know it’s a lot but thank you for hearing me and giving me a voice. I am just one person among the many people who unfortunately have been victimized. And I am aware of how scary it can be to be vulnerable and share your experience, so I know there are also a lot of other nameless victims I haven’t spoken to. And I’ve also brought up to Brian many times how I felt uncomfortable after hearing negative opinions about him and I would ask him to explain himself. He really would always find a way to talk himself out of taking any accountability and always paint his clients as unreasonable. I can tell you firsthand that as far as I can say with all the self-reflecting, I’ve done I was not unreasonable. Please do not let him twist this story either and I hope that you can believe my experience and take heed.



And Brian I know you’re reading this and truthfully as much as I’m angry and disappointed I have passed my stage of feeling spiteful. I can genuinely say I did not write all this out of anger. I want to at least make sure someone is doing the right thing by sharing their unfiltered experience. I know you won’t change for the better. You are always showing off about the girls you slept with and your girlfriend like they’re prizes and objects. You speak of your past doing unethical things, deceiving people, working with gang members like it’s a flex. To be honest when hearing your stories thinking of your actions as accomplishments, I pitied you but laughed along for you to save you from embarrassment. By always bragging about your “accomplishments” and how sly and smart you are you were actually just telling on yourself truthfully.If you want to push this further go ahead. I will push back and I am not afraid to push harder and you will understand you have messed with the wrong person. I hope you take this as a lesson that your actions will have consequences and eventually you will have to take accountability. Your current situation is an accumulative sum of your actions. You repeatedly being in this situation is a reflection of who you are as a person. I have nothing more to say. Goodluck.







TLDR: My experience with Brian, the once-trusted plastic surgery guide, turned into a nightmare. He manipulated me into choosing a questionable hospital, Deesse, despite my reservations. The surgeon, Dr. Kim Jin Hyung, promised to fix my eyebrow asymmetry but failed to deliver. Brian's absence throughout the process and his greed for money were evident. Don't fall victim to this unethical and money-driven duo.

**This review is not meant to bash anyone but to shed light on the dark truth I've discovered. I must warn you all and offer my own experience as a cautionary tale.


Let's cut to the chase. Many of you may remember my previous review, where I praised Braun and my translator, Brian. I genuinely believed he had his clients' best interests at heart. However, as his popularity grew, he became sloppy and his lack of a moral compass became evident. The shift was alarming.

Here's the scoop: Brian, abusing his position as a guide, manipulates clients into going to specific hospitals, even when there are previous cases of botched procedures and unhappy clients. He swayed me away from my first choice, Braun, by feeding me lies about their incompetence in eyebrow lifts. I fell for it, foolishly believing his recommendations were genuine.

During my trip, Brian's presence was minimal. He neglected his responsibilities, barely researching or checking up on me after surgery. He only showed up for a couple of appointments, putting on a show of being present while his attention was divided amongst other clients. And to top it off, he even kept my phone for three days without a valid reason, despite my close proximity to where he lived. His excuse of being too lazy to return it revealed his carelessness. This recurring theme showcased his overestimation of his own cleverness. Negligence and carelessness at its finest.

But let's talk about the real issue: the results of my surgery. During my consultation with Dr. Kim Jin Hyung at Deesse, he appeared knowledgeable, competent, and professional. He promised to fix my eyebrow asymmetry by at least 70%… My eyebrow lift was an absolute failure. No difference whatsoever. I paid a premium price for guaranteed improvement, but it was all a lie. And my unsatisfactory tipplasty? It's a constant reminder of my disappointment every time I look in the mirror. Despite my complaints, Brian did nothing to address the situation. He gaslit me, disregarded my concerns, and sided with the hospital, all while pretending to care. I felt unheard and betrayed, with no recourse for a revision as promised in the contract.

To make matters worse, the contract promising a free revision if unsatisfied turned out to be worthless. The doctor claimed a revision supposedly wouldn't be possible for at least five years, rendering my contract null and void. Brian completely failed to advocate for me and explore the possibility of revision with the clinic. Brian's response? A feeble apology and empty promises for the future. He had the audacity to suggest using Botox to remedy my eyebrow asymmetry. I didn't want to deal with future solutions when he had failed me in the present. His apologies held no weight, and his disregard for my best interests was apparent.

As I began connecting with other clients of his, a disturbing pattern emerged. Brian was funneling everyone to Deesse, hyping up the hospital, and then hitting them with exorbitant prices. When it came to negotiating, he conveniently found excuses for not securing a better deal, even though it was possible. But that's not all. He pressured me relentlessly to get a facelift, making me question my appearance and causing unnecessary stress. And he did the same to my 19-year-old friend, exploiting her youth and vulnerability. Unbelievable.
The financial aspect is not the only issue here. The trauma of feeling betrayed and dissatisfied is something I can't easily overcome.

Money comes and goes, but the scars of a bad experience linger. I cannot allow these unethical practices to continue unchecked. I apologize to anyone who had a negative experience after my referral. This is my karma, and I take responsibility for it.

Brian's lies and manipulation have shattered my trust in people. I have been through hell and back, unable to enjoy my upcoming wedding engagement trip to Lake Como. Counting every calorie, obsessing over my appearance, and relapsing into unhealthy habits have consumed me. The injustice of this situation cuts deep. I am 27 years old, I spent $30,000 with Brian in less than a year. I invested my trust, supported Brian's business wholeheartedly, and defended him against doubters. I would reply back to late messages to refer Brian to everyone who inquired about him. Never missed a single message. I truly wanted his business to thrive because I felt he deserved to enjoy the fruits of his labour. But this story is about more than just my personal struggles; it's about exposing bad characters / practices and warning others. I am just one amongst many whom Brian has victimized. I’ve vocalized on multiple occasions to Brian how uncomfortable I felt after hearing negative feedback about him from others, and I would ask him to explain himself. He never took any accountability and was quick to demonize the clients - accusing them of being unreasonable. I can tell you firsthand that as far as I can say with all the self-reflecting I’ve done - I was not unreasonable. Please do not let him twist this story either. I hope you will take heed and avoid making the same mistakes. Avoid partnering with him.

To Brian, I know you're reading this. My anger has evolved into a genuine desire for transparency. This isn't a rant fueled by emotion. My intention is to ensure someone takes responsibility by sharing the unfiltered truth. I don't expect you to change for the better. You seem to take pride in bragging about the women you've slept with and treating them as objects. You boast about your past involvement in unethical activities, deceiving people, and associating with gang members as if it's a flex. Frankly, when I heard these stories, I felt sorry for you but pretended to laugh along to spare you embarrassment. Little did I know, your constant bragging was actually a confession of your true character.
@joojooyoung96 wow! Thank you for writing such a detailed account. I am sorry you ended up spending $30,000. I knew of deesse from several years ago as an expensive lip clinic but not for anything else. I personally would not recommend hiring a translator or agency as the prices clinics or hospitals charge will be more to cover their costs for bringing you to them and they may end up suggesting more procedures than you need. I initially tried docfinderkorea but realised all their clinics A-D wanted at least $20,000 and were all suggesting bone contouring surgery.

I didn’t need this but I can see how young people may be lured into paying this and more. My motto is don’t spend more than 5 million won in Korea ($5k). Without paying a translator even Girin offered to do my zygoma reduction for 5 million won. I used google translate or papago and most clinics I chose have someone on staff who speaks English. I would be terrified to pick a clinic where no one spoke English. I was able to negotiate the best price by comparing clinic quotes and giving the clinic of my choice the bottom line, ie what I could afford and that is all.

I regularly took the metro from the airport as I printed off a metro map and brought it with me. It is also cheaper than the airport bus and quicker! I chose a hotel next to a metro station and of course close to the clinic I had chosen else just choose gangnam or apgujeong, as both are the centres for plastic surgery clinics.

When translators say they saved you a million won ask what the price quoted was. You can ask in this forum whether it is high or fair. I am deeply sorry you got no results from spending $30k. It must hurt immensely like being scammed. Choose the surgeon and not by clinics. Most top surgeons can speak English as it is compulsory to study medicine in one of the top Korean medical schools.
 
I would like to add that I had a somewhat similar experience with Brian. It was my first time to Korea and first time doing plastic surgery, I was quite naive looking back, but thought by hiring Brian I would be somewhat protected. In general I have low expectations so at the time I didn’t have concerns with his service, but looking back now I realise it is a big issue that he wasn’t turning up to agreed post op appointments, he didn’t attend the surgery to ensure no shadow doctor. This is a big issue as this is one of his selling points, especially around the ensuring no shadow doctor. I subsequently returned to Korea after a few months to have neck Lift and neck lipo and additional fat grafting to the eyes, as the 1st time I had neck lipo and fat grafting done it didn’t produce the results I was expecting. The 2nd time around I did my consults solo and realised how ripped off I was. This was quite upsetting as Brian would have know this but didn’t say anything or try to make the price a more reasonable figure. For example, the hospital I did primary rhino with was 10million won but probably should have been no more than 5million, and they quote fat grafting at 4 million won. On my 2nd visit I realised through my consults that 4 million for fat grafting is way overpriced, I ended up paying only 500,000 won for my eyes fat grafting on 2nd visit. I feel upset now as I thought I was hiring and paying Brian to safe guard me, but turns out he is just another cog in the industry machine trying to extract as much $ from foreigners. He also gave me the sell on Deesse, and also said how he was taking his GF there for lip surgery.
 
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