**Experience with Auction Sites / Buyer Beware - Great Western Auctions**

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Has anyone deal with auction houses/bidding online for designer handbags (not ebay, more auction houses) and in particular disputes based on authenticity??

TLDR: Purchased a Mulberry Bayswater bag off a UK/Scottish auction site - Great Western Auctions, that is NOT authentic, but they're refusing to take back saying my evidence of item not being authentic is my 'opinion' and they won't 'cancel the sale' (again not a cancel but a return for legitimate reasons). Any advice or experience on how to deal with them?

For more detail, I looked at auction site and pictures looked ok but was hard to see some of the details. I did figure bc it was a UK based auction house I (foolishly?) trusted they would deal with authentic items locally vs. some random online seller. In person, I could tell the item was a bit off. I had reviewed on Authentication thread here (not authentic), with Authenticate4u.com (not authentic), and went to the Mulberry store in NYC in person (not authentic). I immediately reached out to the auction house when I got item saying I had some concerns just to document, and after I got the
confirmations I followed up.

They are saying they won't 'cancel the sale' and referring to their terms and conditions and saying I had opportunity to review the condition. I said this has nothing to do with condition and based on research I know that doesn't apply if an item is not authentic/counterfeit. I received the authentication from Authenticate4u, based on some recos on these threads and now their excuse is 'it's not a registered company' and that anyone with a computer could have made it. Overall, the auctioneer who is responding is super dismissive and borderline rude in all his emails, so my sense is he is just trying to make this go away. And I'm sure they've had instances where people have buyer's remorse, but I'm just trying to get my money back bc not at all worth what I paid if it's a fake.

The auction house is Great Western Auctions Ltd. based in Glasgow and started by Anita Manning (I don't know her, but apparently is a Scottish TV personality) I assumed this was a legit auction house and also that they would have a standard in how they deal with purchasers/customers.. so am a bit thrown off by the interactions.

The additional complication is they wouldn't allow me to pay with cc or paypal as I bid online (based on US) but wasn't there in person, and I had to do a international bank wire transfer. All things that created more cost / hassle for me, but I assumed I was dealing with a legit business.

Any suggestions on how to get them to action?? would appreciate any insights or if anyone has had a similar experience.
 
Is this the Mulberry bag that was looked it in post 19,217 in the Authentication Thread?

Under UK law, selling counterfeit goods is illegal.

I found this online, in the justanswer.co.uk forum, link below, from someone asking about a similar situation, and if you read through, you'll see that the Lawyer states that "Under UK law, selling counterfeit goods is illegal under the Trade Marks Act 1994" and there is further information in his response, regarding the fact that this legal protection overrides the Auction House's terms and conditions, which may assist you when you refer back to the Auction House…..


You could also contact Citizens Advice Bureau, they may be able to assist:-

 
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Is this the Mulberry bag that was looked it in post 19,217 in the Authentication Thread?

Under UK law, selling counterfeit goods is illegal.

I found this online, in the justanswer.co.uk forum, link below, from someone asking about a similar situation, and if you read through, you'll see that the Lawyer states that "Under UK law, selling counterfeit goods is illegal under the Trade Marks Act 1994" and there is further information in his response, regarding the fact that this legal protection overrides the Auction House's terms and conditions, which may assist you when you refer back to the Auction House…..


You could also contact Citizens Advice Bureau, they may be able to assist:-


Yup exactly - thank you to you/others who reviewed for authentication (and I did follow up to get the COA bc I anticipated this from the auctioneer).

Yup, so I've actually sent them this exact info re: UK law given it's a counterfeit but they keep both saying it's my 'opinion', that the authenticator is 'not registered' (which is also not required under UK law and is based on expertise), and that I could have reviewed and referring to their terms and conditions. I'm exploring if there is another registered authenticator (or if anyone has recs).. but tbh, I think it's just an excuse they're making and will probably try to deny it for another reason and I will just be spending more $ on something that I know to appease them.

I was initially trying to give them benefit of the doubt and reach out to them with the facts before I escalated but now I've submitted something to Citizens Advice. It is a bit more challenging bc the office seems to be set up more for residents (asks to confirm residence in UK/asks for UK #) and very clunky for me as I'm US-based - would be easiest to call but not easy for me to do, and I've submitted a form but haven't heard back yet.

Will share as I learn but also just be warned - I guess I just did not anticipate that an auction house (and seemingly one attached to a public personality / would have thought reputable), would have this type of combative approach.
 
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The auction house stated that the bag is Mulberry. Not a dupe/copy/like etc. and as you are overseas, you couldn’t view it in person. There are distance selling regulations in the UK so that might be something Citizens Advice picks up on (although I don’t know if this would apply for an overseas buyer). Additionally, they may report to trading Standards….


The auction house is trying to make you go away by blustering and fobbing you off by accusing you, instead of taking responsibility for selling a counterfeit item. This is surely a lesson for them; don’t sell what they cannot authenticate/arrange to be authenticated if they are not provided with provenance from the seller. This would protect everyone involved.

Agreed, caveat emptor. Always. It’s a minefield these days. ☹️
 
One lesson: Never pay by wire transfer, especially if you know little (actual data) about a vendor, especially in a foreign transaction. That removed your possible recourse by credit card chargeback.
 
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