Good afternoon ladies in the USA, evening to those in Europe and good morning to you in Asia. I really am of the opposite gender so what am I doing on a purse forum? Three years ago my girl friend and I ordered a 32 Kelly rigide in box. The color choice was Havane. Last week, for the second time in 3 years we were told it had arrived. We made the 50 mile drive to Hermes. The bag was indeed a 32 rigide but the leather was Veaux Chamonis and the color Chocolate. This Chocolate is almost black and the leather almost suede. Hopefully you can help us locate a 32 box rigide in a middle brown color. We think Tan is too light if you can have only one Kelly, especially for the more mature set. Does anyone know if Havane is discontinued? I know Noisette is chestnut. Is it still available and how dark is it? By the way ladies, you are pretty tough on each other if someone steps out of line!