My DH has such a good eye for things. So, we agreed that I can get a Kelly for my 40th, still a little while away. We have been into H a few times to look. I had thought, as expressed on an earlier thread, 28 cm rigid black box. Great for a first Kelly. He fell in love with a 25 cm rigid in chocolate Epsom, also rigid. I trust him so much, but have not had such a small bag in years. Could he be onto something? He also thinks that this will be my last Kelly. Well worry about that one later.