For me, the ONLY way for my curls to look good is to wash my hair upside down, and then leave it hanging upside down until I style it. This results in a sore neck, but worth it for my hair to look good. I find that shampoo/conditioner doesn't matter as much as the products I use afterwards, which are: Curl Conscious Curl Creme (Bumble & Bumble), TIGI Curls Rock! Curl Amplifier, and usually some sort of serum to control my frizzies (my fave is Kerastase Oleo Relax, doesn't relax your curls, just fights frizz)