A clear photo of the creed stamp or patch is probably the single most important thing we - or you - need to see when looking at or authenticating an older or classic leather Coach. No one but an expert should ever even think of buying any Coach unless the seller shows clear photos of the creed and the outside, inside and hardware of the bag. Most of the time if an older bag is counterfeit, the creed will show it. And believe me, there are a LOT of older and classic fake Coaches. Please, always get a full set of photos of the bag, and post them and/or the auction information in the Authenticate This Coach thread under Coach Shopping. Please remember to use the format listed in the first post on the first page of that thread.