Honestly I just picked up a couple of goatskin black 19 bags in large and maxi and they are both really shiny, shinier than any of the C bags. But definitely not as smooshy and more structured, “plasticky” I read, which is kind of true. Not that they are plasticky, they just have a different finish it seems from the lamb. I’m loving both lamb and goat in the 19, they both have nice characteristics and definitely has a sheen and resilience to it as above poster mentioned. However I really do think that the goat will soften over time nicely, and still has a benefit of a little more sheen and durability. I haven’t used either of my goat 19s yet but I can tell that they will definitely soften and become even more beautiful once broken in a bit. Pic of large goat