I received my Sapin Messenger from BlueFly.com and was not impressed. The leather was ok at best and it looked it had been a return since the handle was creased and the bag as "wrinkled" -- don't know how to explain it otherwise. The leather was also very dry and veiny...... This just may have been my bag but it is being returned tomorrow...... So I am out shipping but I am ok with that..... You live and you learn!